Re: Very slow network - Ubuntu

["A. Ben Hmeda" <abh@canada.com>]

Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 22:18 -0400, Marty wrote:
> [...snip...]
> > If in the future I decide to use a spinoff distribution, it's valuable to know
> > that I can still get support from Debian users.  Of course, this would be
> > done only after seeking support from uses of the spinoff distro, as the OP in 
> > this thread did.
>
> Okay, he is trying to get support for an older version of Ubuntu. Dapper
> is not the current version of Ubuntu. Init system drives the driver
> initialization. Drivers not properly being loaded is exactly in the init
> system.
>
> I can't seem to find any references to abh@canada.com on any ubuntu.com,
> including lists.ubuntu.com or or ubuntuforums.org

It is a fake e-mail address.

> Original message say he searched and found nothing.
>
> To quote:
>         I have searched ubuntu forums to no avail. My network connection
>         has slowed down considerably since I installed Ubuntu Dapper
>         (6.06.1 LTS) I have disabled ipv6 in /etc/aliases and Firefox,
>         still slow by about 50%.
>
> What does that tell you? No he never asked the questions. I find no
> references to his e-mail address on lists.u.c or any "*hmeda" user or
> any signatures in ubuntuforums. Not to mention I've found several
> threads that address this specific issue. I don't think he has good
> faith when telling us he looked.

At Ubuntu forums, I found at least 8 different threads around the same 
subject (Slow Ubuntu) spanning about 3 versions of the distro. Did the 
same on Google. All suggestions were pretty much the 
same:disable/blacklist ipv6, which I have. What do you think the answer 
would have been if I had asked the same question again? Probably 
something along the lines of "This question has already been answered a 
million times, why don't you search...etc." or "Disable ipv6". I asked 
the question here because I know that the wealth and depth of 
information on this list is great. FYI, I have been lurking here for 
years and got my Sarge support here, without asking a single question. 
So you can guess how desperate I was by subscribing to the list and 
daring to ask...eek, I'll stick to lurking.
> I think this comes down to the fact that he is a bad question asker and
> not even in the proper venue. Doesn't know how to search and I believe
> his real problem comes down to DNS resolution issues or /var issues or
> both. 
>
> So, AFAIC, we have been duped and he garners nothing more than a "Hey
> install Edgy, until then don't come back" pretty soone if he waits long
> enough, it'll be a "Hey install Fiesty, until then don't come back"
>
> His excuse is "3 years of security support". Big deal, Woody had nearly
> 4.5 years of security support. The LTS releases from Ubuntu are
> supported by Ubuntu, not Debian. I am not at all ready to support some
> thing foreign to Debian for 3 years. Unless he pays cash on the barrel
> head. Then I will fix the problem.

But my webcam, for example, didn't work on woody, Sarge nor FC5 (for 
obvious reasons). Enter Ubuntu, IMO, a fully functional desktop, based 
on my favorite distro, except for this tiny quirk that only exists in 
one out of two machines running the same distro. So, I think that 
picking LTS was damn good excuse.

> And last but far from least, Ubuntu has a significantly different init
> system than Debian right now. PLUS they install zeroconf by default and
> causes headaches every where.
>
> One other thing, *IF* he changed /var to a separate filesystem after the
> install, there are some significant problems that will occur. Like; a
> network interface not coming up properly, or a DNS resolution issue to
> name a couple. These come back to the divergence of Ubuntu from Debian
> as the Debian helpers don't know about the /var/run and /var/lock
> issues. I've dealt with this problem numerous times with Ubuntu Dapper.
>
> I know more about Ubuntu Dapper and Edgy than I'd like to admit, but
> still he is not asking in the right venue.

I'm also asking in comp.os.linux.networking, the suggestions over there 
are actually quite interesting. Thanks.