Re: OT: Hardware Q's
Thanks for everyone's response!
Gnu_Raiz wrote:
Now saying that if you run dual head you will
most likely use a graphics card, or another device to get the 2nd head to
work. So I am a little perplexed why you might want an onboard VGA
solution, as most will not drive two heads.
No, but it will run one head, and a PCI video card will run the second.
I'm currently using (well, I _was_ using, until my mobo fried) an AGP
and a PCI card. It'd be better to have a dual-monitor card I reckon, but
that'd cost me some more "pocket change".
Just a quick side note as you know most 754, and 939 boards, and cpu's
will be EOL, or end of life soon. That is one reason you will see these
deals, as they are moving out inventory. If you wanted to spend a little
more, you could pick up an AM2 board and a dual core cpu for about 50 -70
dollars more.
$50 is rather stiff to me.
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 03/17/07 00:34, Kent West wrote:
Newegg.com has a:
Biostar GF61M7-combo 32 AMD Athlon64 3000+ Socket 754 NVIDIA GeForce
6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Gnu_Raiz is correct: 754 boards are *trailing* edge tech.
That's "ok", and might be all that fits your budget, but try for the
fastest CPU possible in that 754 board, or go for an AM2 board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130050
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103032
I'm not a gamer; I use a TV-tuner card, run a dual-head setup, browse
Using on-board VGA?
That, plus a PCI card, as mentioned above. The mobos you mention have no
video nor AGP slot, which would mean I'd have to get another video card
($20 minimum) and use up another slot, or get a dual-head card, which
looks to be about $112 minimum. Ouch. Way ouch.
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[I built a new machine, went to reuse a power supply and discovered I
didn't have the right 4 pin plug needed to power the board and CPU
correctly. Fans would spin up but nothing happened. A change to a more
modern PSU helped.]
I thought an ATX power supply was an ATX power supply. Now it looks like
yet another possible part to purchase. Yikes! Does it never end?
RAM is cheap enough that you could populate the new board with 2 x 1G sticks of
DDR400 out of pocket change [£20 or £30 a stick at most]
I suspect your pockets are deeper than mine; but I was considering a 512
stick (at around $40). It'd hurt up front, but I was somewhat suspecting
it'd be better in the long run.
It appears the audio and LAN chip work with Linux, but I'm getting iffy
results on the GeForce 6100 chipset (yes on Debian, but only with the
vesa driver, etc).
You may find that a closed source Nvidia driver will work - but can't be
supplied with Debian out the box.
That's one of the things that really, really bothers me about buying
video hardware. It seems that I've got to settle for half-implemented
support, or move to a philosophically impure, non-Free solution. And I
don't blame the Debian/GNU developers one whit; I put total blame on the
video card manufacturers.
But, I'll stop ranting about that now; we're all familiar with the
problem ....
why not move to 64 bit as
well :)
After you folks have pointed out the 32-bit jail solution, I think I
probably will. Thanks!
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Newegg.com has a:
Biostar GF61M7-combo 32 AMD Athlon64 3000+ Socket 754 NVIDIA GeForce
6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
But there are 0 reviews.
Yeah; that bothers me. That's why I was hoping someone on this list
actually had the board.
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
What are the conflicting answers? nVidia chipsets seem to work just
fine.
I've lost the sources now, but things like, "the card works with Debian,
but not using the nv driver, so you don't get 3D capability", etc.
Which isn't a show-stopper necessarily. I was just hoping to find
someone who had this board who could be more definitive about it.
64 bit
is ofcourse much faster.
I thought it just allowed you to address more memory. (I figured the
"faster" came from being on a more modern chip with improved speed
rather than from being 64-bit.)
Personally, Kent, I don't see anything wrong with this setup except the
question about dual-head and the power supply connection. Just be aware
that its scarred-edge technology (as opposed to bleeding edge). It will
do the job right now. However, I would suggest that you compare it with
an AM2 board with the same processor.
Cheap + adequate is what I was aiming for.
IIRC in $CDN the board was 178, the
video was 80, the processor 100, the meory 100,
Which is about $460, whereas my solution looks to be closer to $150 (or
$220 if I need a new stick of RAM and a new P/S). I'd love to have your
box, but but I'm more limited than that.
Thanks, again, for everyone's input! If anyone has other info, I'm all ears.
--
Kent
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