Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings
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I stated:
> > I wonder if the Germans would suggest West Berlin, as well as the
> > continued military occupation of Japan.
Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> stated:
> So:
>
> 1) Freddy said that the US has never gone to war to expand its
> borders.
>
> 2) Kent replied that the Native Americans might disagree
>
> 3) You said that [snip] the Germans might suggest West Berlin and
> the continued occupation of Japan
No, I said I _wonder_ if the Germans or Japanese would consider the
continued military occupation of their country such an expansion.
> The clear implication of your response is that West Berlin and the
> continued occupation of Japan imply that we went to war to expand
> our orders.
Actually, the clear implication is that I consider the military
occupation of 170 different countries by the US to be reprehensible,
which causes me to wonder what the peoples so occupied think of it.
If you want to get really picky, neither Cuba nor the Philipines were
ever included in the "expanding borders" of the US, compared for
instance with Hawaii, but those two examples of military conquest by
the US were not picked out of the pile I presented.
I agree that the US did not specifically "expand the border" into
every example of military conquest I gave. So you and I do not
actually disagree.
It remains, however, that I do wonder how those folks feel about the
continued military occupation of their country. I certainly would not
be happy with, say, French military bases in New Jersey.
Curt-
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