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Re: Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day



On Sun 11 Feb 2007 15:56:23 -0500 Ken Heard wrote:
> A few weeks ago I installed Etch RC1 on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 P2 laptop.
> The installation itself went without hitch, and I set about customizing
> it to my taste and installing various applications.  For example I
> replaced Gnome with KDE, as I had been using KDE since I converted to
> Linux and don't want at this stage to lean a new desktop environment.
> 
> Then, on 6 February -- completely out of the blue -- I booted the
> computer, which I had set to log on automatically to my user.  Instead
> however of seeing the KDE desktop, I got an xterm screen, which I
> assumed was a fail-safe xterm session.  When I tried to use it, it did
> not respond; the machine hung.  I was however able to log in, both as
> root and my user, on the ordinary terminals, ctl-alt-F1 to F6.
> 
> It seems to me that the xserver-xorg is broken somehow.  I tried
> aptitude from the command line but could find no broken packages.  The
> only configuration option I know about is "dkpg-reconfigure
> xserver-xorg" which was of no help.
> 
> Another change I noticed that on this fatal boot-up, both the
> avahi-daemon, whatever that is, and the HP linux printing and imaging
> system failed to load.
> 
> To make matters worse, an hour later I booted my desktop and met
> with the same result: a fail-safe terminal emulator and a hung machine.
> This failure happened to a P4 box on which I had installed Sarge and KDE
>  in June 2005 when Sarge first came out.  Other than a few glitches
> encountered on initial installation, it has worked perfectly ever since.
> 
> In this case I was also able to access the box from a native terminal,
> and so was able to write to zip750 disks all my document files.
> 
> Again I used aptitude from the command line and also found no broken
> packages, this time the x-server being xfree86 rather than xorg.  I did
> however discover that aptitude wanted to upgrade xserver-xfree86 to
> xserver-xfree86-dbg and also upgrade some of the dependencies.  Two
> lines of the syslog read as follows:
> 
> Feb  8 09:04:41 localhost kdm_greet[2943]: Can't open default user face
> Feb  8 09:04:47 localhost kdm: :0[2948]: Session
> "/etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession" execution failed: Permission denied
> 
> Unfortunately however I was unable to do any upgrades, because on this
> boot-up the the operating system -- for the first time ever -- was
> unable to connect to the LAN.
> 
> As always, the NIC was detected and the driver installed.  It could not
> connect to the network.  The system tried to connect to the network five
> times, each time reporting "Network is down", when I knew it was not.
> 
> My first instinct was to check the hardware.  The card was properly
> seated in the mainboard, and all the cables and connections worked with
> another computer and the print server.  I swapped the NIC with another
> one of the same make and model from another desktop.  The one swapped to
> that other desktop worked.  The desktop previously reporting "network is
> down" still so reports with the swapped NIC which had worked before in
> the other desktop.
> 
> The LAN, by the way, is restricted to our residence where only two
> desktops, one laptop, a print server and a gateway-switch are connected
> to it.  This installation is only ever used by my spouse and me.
> 
> It is particularly serious that both my previously operational computers
> failed at the same time.  Fortunately I had a third desktop, on which no
> operating system had been installed.  My first task was to install Etch
> RC1 on it so I had access to the web and could send and receive e-mails
> and install my document files on it.  The necessity to make these
> installations accounts for the delay in reporting my problem to the
> Debian user list.
> 
> My first priority is to get the laptop with Etch on it working again, as
> I am departing  a week hence on an extended trip where I will need it.
> But I would like to get the desktop with Sarge working again too.  I
> will be grateful to anybody who can tell me how to do so.

	Since Sunday 11 Feb 2007, with considerable help from several people on
the list, notably Ken West, I have been trying to get the Xserver to
work when logged in as my user on both computers, so far without success.

	On both boxes however, after I ran "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" and then ran
"startx", the following two lines were returned twice:

		Using authority file /home/ken/.Xauthority
		Writing Authority file /home/ken/.Xauthority

	 After those four lines the following two more lines were returned:

		/etc/X11/X is not executable
		xinit: Server error

	However, I was able to boot a usable xserver by running "startx"  as
root.  I was consequently able to remove from the computer which could
not be connected to the network all my data files.  (The laptop did not
have any data files in it.)

	I had a third computer, another desktop without an operating system
installed on it.  In order to have a useable box I installed thereon
Etch RC1 and transferred to it my data files.  It is this computer I
have been using since.

	However, as I will need an operational laptop by 21 Feb, On 13 Feb I
decided I could not afford the luxury any more of trying to get the
laptop x-server to work on my user, and so proceeded to do a completely
fresh installation, first by reformatting the hard drive and then using
the latest build of the Etch testing netinstall.

	I have difficulty believing that losing use of the x-server on both my
operational computers within hours of each other on 6 Feb was
coincidental.  Only on the desktop however, which had Sarge installed
(the laptop had Etch), was connection to the network lost; I still had a
useable network connection on the laptop.  Perhaps the fact that the
network connection on the desktop was and is a NIC; whereas on the
laptop the NIC is in fact a PCMCIA card.  Fortunately, as of today the
NIC card now works.

	Since I was able to set up another desktop and now have an operational
laptop, I have decided to abandon use of the desktop with the failed
x-server and NIC.  When I have time next April I will install Etch on it
after a complete reformatting of the hard drive.

	Presumably by then the Etch RC2 installer will be ready, if not a
stable Etch.  I understand the declaration of Etch as stable is coming,
but so is Christmas.

	I need to be convinced that my computer problems were not caused by
some external source -- a virus or some such.  If not so caused, my now
unused third box with Sarge which still lacks a fully working x-server
is still available for further experimentation.

				Ken



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