Re: relationship between debian's wiki and newbiedoc's wiki
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:42:46PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On Saturday 03 February 2007 17:05, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > What is the relationship between the debian.org wiki and newbiedoc's
> > wiki? I notice that newbiedoc isn't referenced anywhere on debian's
> > website so someone (a newbie) going to debian.org doesn't find reference
> > to newbiedoc. I'm wondering why this is. If all
> > articles/notes/whatever for newbies go to newbiedoc then how do newbies
> > find it.
> >
>
> They are simply not related.
>
> newbiedoc has articles that probably span a wide range of audience than just
> debian users. Not all debian users would be interested in reading articles
> about other distributions; Where as wiki.debian.org caters to the needs of
> just Debian users.
>
> How do newbies find out? Just like everyone else do - www.google.com. I am not
> kidding here.
>
> Another option would be to create pages in wiki.debian.org and point it to the
> repective docs on newbiedoc website. Others might have more suggestions how
> to connect these two...
>
> > It looks like if someone wants to post a note or article, that it has to
> > go to newbie doc since the debian wiki is immutable.
>
> I just now visited http://wiki.debian.org/RecentChanges and the last change
> was done roughly 3 hours ago. It is definitely modifiable. However, to
> write/modify articles you first need to create an account.
>
The newbiedoc I'm talking about is
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Main_Page
It says:
NewbieDoc - Debian documentation FOR newbies BY newbies (and
not-so-newbies).
Looking again at the debian wiki I see now how to edit. I'm using Lynx
and sometimes its hard to find stuff.
The other difference I see is that while newbiedoc (and all posts to it)
are under the GFDL, the debian wiki says it is _not_ GFDL, yet the
DebianWiki Copyright link points to debian.net which gives you a page
that says it doesn't exist.
I'm just pondering the amount of newbie-type questions the list gets
which seems to point to a lack of initial documentation to turn absolute
newbies into functional newbies (people who know they don't know
anything except how to find help appropratly). What I describe as the
brick wall at the beginning of the Debian learning curve for people who
have never used a computer.
Personally, I'm _not_ a newbie.
Doug.
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