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Re: goddammit

On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:35:57PM -0500, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 05:19:12PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > On 2/2/07, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
> > >On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 01:59:30PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > >> On 2/2/07, Incoming <s.clement@cashette.com> wrote:
> More like vividly expressed frustration.  After all, he didn't say 
> anyone was an idiot, or accuse anyone of using Spongebob to soak up 
> left-over baby's blood, did he?
> > >
> > >The trouble with Debian is that is is an old distro, and some of its
> > >documentation has become seriously out-of-date.  If there was some way
> > >of maintaining the documentation along with the code, that would be
> > >great!
> Young distros haven't had time to let their docs get out of date -- they 
> either don't have any or have wrong docs from other distros.
> > 
> > I second that. The docs on the site are somewhat out of date. The
> > stuff in /usr/share/doc is usually up to date though, so is the
> > install guide.
> I think there's an interesting research project here -- how to keep 
> documentation up-to-date in a volunteer organisation.  Or in any 
> organisation for that matter.  Developers seem unable or disinclined to 
> do so.  This leads to documentation specialists, but unless they also 
> develop, they won't have the information they need to write into the 
> docs.  In commercial software houses, where a manual is required, one 
> ends up with neat documentation that is of very little value.
> Now the Linux documentation has escaped most of this, but it is not 
> complete, and not up-to-date.
> Time to brainstorm, I suspect.  Any ideas (like dependency tracking, 
> maybe) how to at least identify what documentation is outdated?  If we 
> can't do at lest that, we're doomed.
Hi Hendrik,

There's a parallel thread on the same basic topic.  

I think the biggest hurdle is the initial learning curve for people new
to *N*X coming to Debian (don't know about other distros).  I describe
it as a brick wall.

More experienced users know whats up and where to turn.

Long term: yes a smooth documetation system would be great.

Short term: Provide, proactively, an on-ramp over that brick wall.

I'd be happy to work on this with people.



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