hi all I'm using kubuntu and while i was in the konsol as a root using (SU),an was opening (vi) editor it get hang and i closed the konsol, the problem is when i try to re use (SU)and enter the password an error (setgid: Operation not permitted) results ------------ now i want to use root permition thanks for ur care __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com