you mixup things. first, real player == helix player + real branding + two non-free plugins (for mp3 and real media) second, you *either* install helix player *or* real player, but not both. and the one does not need the other anyway. -- Address: Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/