On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 05:14:27PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > > Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org>: > >> It lacks the ability to use the SMTP interface to send mail, being > >> restricted to the command line to get the job done. > > > It's an MUA. Use SMTP. > > Exactly. I would love to but it can't. > > >> It lacks filtering. > > > Like a washing machine sucks as a dishwasher. > > Yet filtering belongs in the client, especially if that client has > multiple accounts since one wouldn't want the same filters to apply to all > accounts. > I would have to respectfully disagree with you here. If you are using POP, you might have a case. However, if you are using IMAP, then the filtering belongs on the server. I like knowing that no matter which of the three different clients I use from the three computers in my house or any of the computers at work see the same thing. That is, when I decide to filter debian list mail to a particular folder, then I should not need to implement that on two or three MUAs on half a dozen hosts. I should be able to log into the server, do it once there and have it take effect everywhere. The same goes with Spam. I don't have to train more than one Spam filter, that being the one on the server. > >> It lacks a decent IMAP implementation. Hint, IMAP is not a glorified > >> POP. > > > Don't care. > > You don't. I do. I rather like being able to read mail on my Debian > laptop, my WinXP Game machine or any machine with a web-capable browser and > get all of my mail all of the time. > But yet, you want the client to handle all your filtering for you? That makes no sense. > >> It lacks a decent multi-account implementation. Having to configure > >> every single item by hand without the concept of account inheritance is > >> a nightmare. > > > You have a ridiculously complicated "system" for organizing your mail, > > and it's mutt's fault for doing what it does well. No. > > A rediculously complicated system? What's so complicated about it. Let's > see, I have home mail and I have work mail. I configure my home account with > 1 signature, 1 POP/IMAP server, 1 SMTP server. All the mail remains separate. > All my home filters only apply to my home mail. I need a work account I > configure 1 signature, 1 POP/IMAP server, 1 SMTP server. All mail remains > separate. All my work filters only apply to my work mail. > > Mutt, by contrast, requires you to first.... learn how to run an SMTP > server, shove all your work and home mail through it where you then have to > write filters which separate it back out. Nevermind that all filters apply to > all mail all of the time. Then, once it is filtered out, you need to go > through for every freakin' folder and define which address it is supposed to > come from, which sent-mail folder it is supposed to go to, which signature to > use. Add a new folder? Have to do it all over again. And heaven help the > person who wants to send home mail through his home SMTP server and work mail > through his work SMTP server because of sticky little work policies which > state that all mail that passes through the work server is subject to being > read at any time by any upper management or security personell, work servers > are not to be used for personal mail and any work mail which is going between > two employees in the company must go through the work SMTP server whenever > possible to prevent outside companies from being able to record and review > confidential documents. So know what that means? Right, back to the SMTP > server to mangle outbound mail to go to the right server and pray they don't > nail you for the Received line. That alone shows that Mutt is far more > complex than it needs to be. Separate how outbound mail gets to its > destination in modern clients *one freaking configuration option*. To do it > in Mutt requires advanced SMTP server techniques! > Have you even bothered to Google search for "mutt multiple accounts"? It appears that the account-hook configuration setting can be used to set up a number of different IMAP accounts between which you can switch quite easily. No local SMTP server setup required. Besides, mutt is only complex because of its extreme flexibility. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto
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