also sprach Derek Martin <code@pizzashack.org> [2006.06.23.1403 +0200]: > Why should I not make such statements? If Debian is not meeting > the needs of people who want to use it, why should the Debian > community not strive to meet those needs? Is the Debian community > not open to change for the better? Sure, for the better. In this case, however, you are the only one who thinks it's better. You are welcome to package libpam-console and see if others fly by it. > I never said you didn't... but can you provide a logical reason > for discluding support for pam_console? Please go through the numerous discussions on the topic in the list archives. You are not the first to raise this issue, you know? > Can you find any fault with my analysis? You may not personally > like pam_console, but it appears to be technically superior to all > of the debian-supported solutions to the problem of how to provide > access to system resources to workstation users Then I suggest you take a look at the code. > And if you have a logical technical argument against pam_console, > I'd still like to hear it. It's an ugly hack that will cause more problem than it's worth. Please, go ahead and try it. > Fine. But, why? I don't think "...because I don't like it" is a very > reasoned or sensible justification, but that seems to be the only > justification you are willing to offer. You are talking about killing processes and you're asking me why? How, for instance, do you want to cope with the situation of letting a second user log in in KDE or Gnome while the first session is locked? Just kill the first session? > This is starting to seem an awful lot to me like unreasoned > anti-RedHat prejudice getting in the way of providing solid > technical solutions to real problems faced by real users every > day... Go ahead and provide the solid solution then. Don't expect others to do it for you. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org> : :' : proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "arguments are extremely vulgar, for everyone in good society holds exactly the same opinion." -- oscar wilde
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