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Re: testing upgrade = dog's breakfast

On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 22:24 +0200, lee wrote:
> On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 11:35:42AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Well, if you had installed Sarge or Etch, they would have upgraded your
> > Exim v3 install to Exim v4. I've done the transition a couple of hundred
> > times, it has never failed me except on a hand crafted config.
> Neither Sarge, nor testing upgrade Exim3 to Exim4. Default on Sarge
> was Exim3 when I installed it, default on testing is Exim4. Since the
> configuration is much different between the two versions, it is _very
> good_ policy that Exim3 is not upgraded unless you do it yourselfe.

Okay, where were you when it asks: "or do you have a handcrafted exim3
config" and do the change over manually (unconfigured until you fix it)

Every single machine I have upgraded is now part of a cluster of
machines that use a standard "little files" setup and I just have a
package I install that puts everything in there I need. (along with my
vhosting setup)

> A switch from lilo to grub is also not made in the upgrading process,
> but that's something I would whish to have an automatic upgrade for
> --- though that's probably difficult to do unless you stick to the
> kernel packages from the distribution instead of making your own
> kernel.

Again, if Lilo *IS* installed it does not change to grub. If grub *IS*
installed it does not go BACK to Lilo unless you changed your "/"
filesystem to XFS.

> You likewise get Cyrus 1.5 with Sarge. I don't know what it upgrades
> to when upgrading to testing, but imho it _should_ be upgraded to a
> more recent 1.5 only. Cyrus 2.x is much different from 1.5, and an
> upgrade is something that is definitely to be done manually, after
> reading the docs and, if possible, after having the upgrading tried
> out in a testing environment on a copy of the real data.

Please read what I write and not assume what you think I wrote.
greg, greg@gregfolkert.net

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