Re: Xorg

[Ian MacDonald <imac@ianbmacdonald.com>]

Well, I've been running my 7.0 desktop all weekend;

Granted I reviewed my dist-upgrade REMOVE, and added-back a few bits
after the upgrades

A quick look at /var/log/dpkg.log will tell you any bits that have been
removed (and may be preventing you from running your X).

You should have all your old .debs in /var/cache/apt/archive to go
backwards (using the output in dpkg.log) if you need too.

incoming.debian.org will tell you what is coming down the pipe

A final word of advice - I hope you have apt-listbugs installed so you
know about issues prior to upgrading.

This would show you:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362891

I'd hold off on the latest xserver-org upgrade, as per the info that
should pop up on your display when you try to upgrade.

apt-get install apt-listbugs

Unstable shouldn't frustrating... but it can require a little debugging
at times .. but that's the fun of cutting edge. 

Pull from experimental a little more often to keep your skillz sharp.
(That's where you will find xlibs 7.0 ).  But most of all .. have fun
doing it.

I'd suggest Ubuntu if you want something a little less cutting edge with
the constant stability and freshness of Debian testing.. even right
after a Stable freeze.

iMac.

On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 23:00 +0300, David Baron wrote:
> >On Sunday 16 April 2006 21:49, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 16 Apr 2006, David Baron wrote:
> > > >On Sunday 16 April 2006 19:07, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 16 Apr 2006, David Baron wrote:
> > > > > Xorg update on Sid will remove a load of stuff without reinstalling
> > > > > equivalents. There is also a list of new hardware oriented modules to
> > > > > come in. What is safe to upgrade at this point or should on wait on
> > > > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please CC off-list since I still do not get digests!
> > > >
> > > > Definitely don't! It worked the first time but next day everything went
> > > > wrong. I can now get X to load but it won't read my xinitrc file and
> > > > icewm won't load so it's useless - total disaster.
> > > >
> > > > In desperation I installed testing on a spare partition but that didn't
> > > > help either because whenever I tried to install any package I got a
> > > > message about e2fsprogs (can't remember the details) which was blocking
> > > > all installs. Google (on a different machine, still working) produced a
> > > > lot of stuff about this but no solutions that I could understand.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I'm feeling pretty despondent about things. Perhaps I shall
> > > > have to install Stable to get a working X.
> > > >
> > > > Anthony
> > >
> > > Figured as much. Yes, Sid is unstable, but posting half done stuff is
> > > really not "fair" to the Debian community. I am compiling kde myself
> > > because of the mess that was--maybe I'll go back to debian packages for
> > > kde4.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > Thanks to hints from various kind people here, I have now finally got X
> > running again. It seems you have to do a thorough reinstall of xorg and
> > then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. The other tricky bit is that if
> > xorg doesn't like your $HOME/.xinitrc it won't start. It doesn't tell
> > you why, it just fails silently. It took me the best part of a day to
> > work that one out.
> 
> ... and I have no such file anywhere. It works now. Do I dare upgrade (and 
> what--xserver-xorg will bring it some new stuff along with it but not all 
> those libraries. The upgrade removes the xproxy and other stuff and does not 
> replace them.