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Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay




On Apr 14, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 04:04:53PM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote:

On Apr 14, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:

Doofus wrote:
Since one of the points of this thread seems to be to highlight the
incidences of people blithely advising "do as it says at the
bottom of
the post" to other people who evidently can't see anything at the
bottom

Especially
when the kind of person incapable of unsubscribing from a mailing
list
is unlikely to even know what you're talking about when you tell
them to
view the raw message.

Taking a brief look at the specs, but not enough to grok them:
I suspect that the problem is that the notice is tacked on _after_
the attachments---essentially turning the notice into an "epilog''
<i> without a content-type</i> rather than either:
(a) placing it within the first text part; or
(b) attaching it as a well-formed part.

Since it's an ill-formed part, it's properly ignored.

Bottom line: I suspect the problem lies with the mechanism used to
append the message.



The above sums it up nicely, IMHO. To wit:

We get a lot of annoying mail from people who can't figure out how to
unsubscribe from the list. Although there is clear information
appended to every message describing how to unsubscribe, that
information is not reliably displayed in every message due to a
variety of factors. Perhaps a better method of providing the
unsubscribe instructions would be in order. I suggest a fully formed
text attachment entitled: Debian-user Subscription Instructions or
something to that effect. And as a matter of being a friendly list, we
should make better efforts to provide clear unsubscribe instructions
in recognition of the fact that some people just won't see them
otherwise.

...taking care that unencapsulated body text (old-school rfc822 messages) is encapsulated...right?



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