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Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay



On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 04:04:53PM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Apr 14, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:
> 
> >Doofus wrote:
> >>Since one of the points of this thread seems to be to highlight the
> >>incidences of people blithely advising "do as it says at the  
> >>bottom of
> >>the post" to other people who evidently can't see anything at the  
> >>bottom
> >>of the post, then to argue "oh yes it is there as long as you know  
> >>which
> >>spells and incantations to cast in order to see it" seems to me to be
> >>unfairly bogging down  the novice with unhelpful pedantics.  
> >>Especially
> >>when the kind of person incapable of unsubscribing from a mailing  
> >>list
> >>is unlikely to even know what you're talking about when you tell  
> >>them to
> >>view the raw message.
> >
> >    Point is that there is a different condition between it being  
> >there and
> >the client failing to show it.  How?  Because if it wasn't there  
> >*NO* client
> >would show it.  Just because one, or a few, clients don't show it  
> >doesn't mean
> >all don't show it.  It's called being precise in reporting problems.
> >
> >-- 
> >         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink,  
> >I'm your
> >       PGP Key: 8B6E99C5       | main connection to the switchboard  
> >of souls.
> >------------------------------- 
> >+---------------------------------------------
>  I'm using a different reader altogether and I sometimes see the  
> unsubscribe annotation and sometimes I don't.
> The difference correlates perfectly with whether the message is  
> multipart mime(rfc1341), or not.--it does not appear whenever the  
> sender mails a multi-part message.  For example you _WON'T_ see it  
> with Steve's messages as illustrated above; you _WILL_ see it with  
> this message (I hope).
> 
> Taking a brief look at the specs, but not enough to grok them:
> I suspect that the problem is that the notice is tacked on _after_   
> the attachments---essentially turning the notice into an "epilog''  
> <i> without a content-type</i> rather than either:
> (a) placing it within the first text part; or
> (b) attaching it as a well-formed part.
> 
> Since it's an ill-formed part, it's properly ignored.

Aha!  I've been wondering how spammers manage to send me 1354-line 
messages although only 10 lines aver show up in mutt. Could this be the 
same mechanism, inadvertently?

-- hendrik



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