Re: What's the next step?
--- Kevin Mark <kmark+debian-user@pipeline.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:22:34AM -0700, Rocky Ou
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I use netinst CD installed Debian Sarge 3.1
> successfully. I only installed
> > base system no any other stuff. I can use SSH to
> connect to remote server.
> > If you could give me some hints regarding to the
> following items, I would
> > really appreciate it?
> >
> >
> > 1. Which package should I download so that I
> can browse webpages as
> > how I'm doing under Windows?
>
> Hi Rocky,
> while is is great to use a window manager/gui
> desktop, you should really
> learn to use the full power of Gnu/Linux under the
> traditional console.
> You may not always have a X windows on a system due
> to confiurations
> problems, ocassional sys admin mistakes, upgrade
> problems and other
> issues. Thus, start by learning to browse the web
> with tools such as:
> w3m, lynx, links, links2 and wget. If you can get a
> framebuffer setup
> then use can use cool tools like links2, fbxine, &
> fbi to display
> graphics and video with out X windows installed.
> This is time well
> spent.
>
> > This is very important as lots of webpages
> > will give me how-to instructions. Do I use
> apt-get xxxxx? Or something
> > else?
>
> Debian has all of its documentation in
> /usr/share/doc/ and in
> its man pages. These are great to get familar with.
> You can also
> install 'apt-get install apt-howto' to get more
> info on apt-get.
>
> > 2. What about Desktop management? I think I can
> either use KDE or X
> > servers right? Most likely I'm wrong. What I
> want is that I can open a
> > terminal to enter commands not the old MS
> style, So that I can use Crt+tab
> > to move betwen termialls?
>
> I regularly start at the console and use 'alt-right
> arrow' and 'alt-left
> arrow' to switch between the basic 6 console
> windows, no need to go to
> the desktop. But you can install a desktop with:
> apt-get install x-window-system gnome gdm
> or
> apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm
> and there are other choises.
>
> > 3. Can I use apt utility to download CMS such
> as TYPO3? After
> > downloading does all of the users can have
> access to it, I mean except root?
> > If this is possible how can normal users do it?
>
> To find stuff use: apt-cache search KEYWORK
> 'apt-cache search typo' should help
>
> >
> >
> > As you see, I'm totally a newbie. The relevant
> link is highly appreciated
> > as well!
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> cheers,
> Kev
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Notwithstanding everything Kevin said about getting to
grips with Linux directly before laying X on top,
which is all true -- you can get your Linux box to the
point where it's as useful / comfortable as your
Windows environment more quickly by doing the
following:
apt-get install kde kdm
(or apt-get install gnome gdm)
Kevin mentioned these, they will install KDE using the
KDM display manager or Gnome using the Gnome display
manager. KDE and Gnome are two competing windowing
environments for X, and X is, very roughly, Windows
for Linux (kinda sorta, massively over-simplifying,
before i get flamed for saying that!)
I don't think you need to separately install X itself
as I think apt-get will know to do that when you
install KDE or Gnome, but just in case you need it X
can be installed by doing
apt-get install x-window-system
(always assuming you are running Sarge, the "stable"
distribution of Debian. If you are running Etch
["testing"] or Sid ["unstable"] you have other
options).
After installing that, unless you are very lucky you
will have to screw around a little to get the most out
of your graphics hardware under X, in which case see
you back on this list ;-).
Once you have X working fine, if you installed KDE you
will have a web browser called Konqueror. I'm sure
there's an equivalent under Gnome but I'm a KDE kinda
guy so I don't know the Gnome program. I used
Konqueror for a bit but found it to be a little bit
flaky -- tended to crash randomly on me. Good for
getting started though and has good integration with
browsing the file system -- like IE vs Windows
Explorer under Windows.
Instead, I now use Mozilla FireFox which you can get
by doing apt-get mozilla-firefox or by downloading and
installing the latest and greatest version from the
Firefox website.
So
apt-get x-window-system [if you need it]
apt-get kde kdm [or gnome gdm or or or...]
apt-get mozilla-firefox
And you'll start having a more familiar-looking
sandpit to play in!
HTH
Mark
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