On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:39:20 -0400 Hal Vaughan wrote: >On Thursday 06 April 2006 00:38, Chris Metzler wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 00:29:14 -0400 >> >>Hal Vaughan wrote: >>>On Thursday 06 April 2006 00:26, Chris Metzler wrote: >>>>On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:19:12 -0400 >>>> >>>>Hal Vaughan wrote: >>>>> And that proves even more that you are not volunteering your time >>>>> unless you get something for it. That's not volunteering. >>>>> Volunteering is giving without expecting a ROI. >>>> >>>> This is fiction. Everyone who volunteers gets a return on their >>>> investment; without it, they wouldn't volunteer. That "return" >>>> may not be in some sort of traditional form like cash, goods, or >>>> services; but if the volunteer absolutely truly got nothing out >>>> of it -- no sense of satisfaction, no gladness at having been >>>> able to help another, absolutely nothing -- then there is nothing >>>> to drive the volunteer towards that activity as opposed to >>>> another. >>> >>> Ironic that you would say this, especially considering your sig. >> >> How so? > > Thank you for proving the point (about you not seeing the connection > between volunteering, giving, and altruism in general). I don't know how you get *there*, either. While there are qualities in common, or relationships, between those three things, none of them are equivalent. Why don't you elucidate your point in more than just a one-liner? -c -- Chris Metzler cmetzler@speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear
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