On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:03:27 -0400 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <roberto@familiasanchez.net> wrote: > Quoting Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com>: > > > > > one of the symptoms of "user friendliness". Ubuntu, I assume, makes > > the assumption that they are pulling in windows users who want a > > windows type mail environment with MUA talking smtp and pop to > > smarthosts out on the 'net at large instead of a local mail > > distribution system. I'm sure there are other symptoms of a similar > > nature where they are moving away from the *nix heritage in the > > interest of user-friendliness. I wonder how that plays out in the > > long run? > > > > I have become a fan of the *nix philosophy and *nix heritage ever since > I started using Debian (about 3.5 years ago). However, this is one are > (mail distribution) where I do not agree. Each network should have > some specifically designated *outbound* mail exchangers. All other > hosts should be blocked from sending any outbound mail to the public > net. That is just part of being a good netizen. A while back I was > getting tons of spam from a host in the state government of New Mexico > netblock. It was somebody's laptop that got infected and started > relaying spam. That is ridiculuous. > > The fact is that the majority of users lack sufficient knowledge to > properly admin an MTA. They should simply configure their systems to > point to their ISPs or organizations mail relays. I'm not saying that > local mail distribution is obsolete, just that a situation where every > host on a network can send email to the public Internet is part of the > problem we are currently experiencing. > > When I still had SBC, they decided to block all outbound port 25 > traffic. I was infuriated since I was paying for their Internet > service and didn't feel that I should have to opt-out of this port 25 > block. I was able to get them to ublock it when I explained to them > that I wanted to run my own mail server and that I knew what I was > doing. Thinking back, though, I realize it was a great idea from their > part since most users are clueless. > > A distro targeted at clueless users (or the masses, or whatever other > euphamism you prefer), should take precautions not to create a > situation where they can easily mess up. excellent point and perspective. Thanks Roberto. A > > -Roberto > > -- > Roberto C. Sanchez > http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org >
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