On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:55:22AM -0500, hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:09:12PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 05:14:33PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > Jim Woodward wrote:
> > > >I have testing in my sources.list.
> > > >Does this mean I am running etch?
> > > >I am running kernel 2.6.15.6
> > > >If I am not running etch, how can I upgrade without a new installation?
> > >
> > > If you started out with testing in your sources.list or if you did a
> > > dist-upgrade since you included it, then you should indeed be running
> > > Etch. The fact that you are using a 2.6.15 kernel suggests it, too.
> > >
> > > Simply look at the output of "cat /etc/issue" to be sure. Another
> > > characteristic thing is your version of libc6; "apt-cache policy libc6"
> > > will tell you what it is and where it came from.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Florian
> > Hi *,
> > the way I look at it, you can run a moving-target stream of debian, a
> > pre-stable stream (aka testing) or a stable 'release' (aka woody,sarge).
> > if 'stable', 'testing' or 'unstable' are in your sources.list, you are
> > running a 'moving-target' system. If you run 'etch'(the current
> > pre-stable) in your list, EVENTUALLY you will be running 'etch' (the
> > stable release) when it becomes a stable release but until that time it
> > is really 'testing' and thus 'moving-target' in the meantime.
> > When a stable stream in released, it exists for a fixed time.
> > this how I would see it in a time-line:
> > 2004 2005 2007
> > <-unstable,testing,stable---------------> always changing
> > x-woody----------------------x unchanging
> > x-pre-sarge------x always changing
> > |
> > x-sarge---------------------x unchanging
> > x-pre-etch-------------x always changing
> > |
> > unchanging x-etch----------------x
> > so by using 'etch', on my diagram I see it as 'pre-etch'.
> > cheers,
> > Kev
>
> If you specify "stable", though, the always changing system really moves
> hardly-at-all most of the time, and then has huge, stability-destroying
> quantum leaps avery few years.
>
> -- hendrik
Hi Hendrik, I think your observation is correct. I did not consider that
fact into my diagram. I will try to revise it.
2004 2006 2007 2008
unstable/sid
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testing
|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
stable
3.0r0 3.0r1 3.1r0 3.1r1 3.1r2 3.2r0 3.2r1 ...
X------------|------------X-----------|-----------|------------X------------|------------X-----------|-----------|
woody
3.0r0 3.0r1 ...
|------------|------------|-----------|-----------|------------|
pre-sarge
|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
sarge
3.1r0 3.1r1 ...
|------------|------------|-----------|-----------|------------|
pre-etch
|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
etch
3.2r0 3.2r1 ...
|------------|------------|-----------|-----------|------------|
pre-???
|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
the key: '-' represents a 10 day period where no updates/bugfixes occur
the key: '|' represents a 10 day period where there are minor updates/bugfixes
the key: 'X' represents a 10 day period where there is a major upgrade
unstable gets about < 100 bug fixes every day
testing gets about < 100 updates every 10 days
stable gets < 10 minor updates about every 3 months and a major update every 1.5 years
sid is unstable
woody exists from 2004-mid 2006 and follows the 'stable' update scheme
pre-sarge exists from 2004-late 2005 and follows the 'testing' update scheme
sarge exists from late 2005 to early 2007 and follows the 'stable' update scheme
pre-etch exists from late 2005-late 2006 and follows the 'testing' update scheme
etch will exists from mid 2006 to early 2008 and follows the 'stable' update scheme
cheers,
Kev
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