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lyx and k3b absent from testing: is this permanent?

Alright, I have searched through and through the mailing lists and cannot find 
why lyx, k3b and opera are not in testing.

It seems like this transition away from kdelibs4 to kdelibs4c2 was done about 
two months ago. So what I am wondering is if lyx and k3b are gone from etch 
for good or if this is one of those things that's gonna get fixed Any Day 

Here are the packages apt wants to remove that I don't want it to remove them 
because I need lyx and k3b.

avifile-player avifile-utils flashkard jackd juk k3b kcmlinuz kdelibs4 
kdemultimedia kgpgcertmanager kpaint libaiksaurus0c102 libarts1
  libfam0c102 libkcal2a libkdegst0.6 libkdenetwork2 libkdepim1 libmimelib1a 
libopenexr2 libqt3-dev libqt3c102-mt libqt3c102-mt-mysql
  libtag1 lyx lyx-common lyx-qt opera

Alexandru Cabuz
Doctoral Student
Université Montpellier II
Tel: +33 (0)

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