Re: debian vs ubuntu and knoppix
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 01:36:11PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> - it is commercialized, in my view, because they provide support
> for $$$$ and is NOT free
> ( support for $$$ is a good thing
> and if you don't like their support pkg, you can get
> support elsewhere
>
> - if i cn buy a ubuntu distro at the local pc stores,
> it's commercialized regardless of what the site says
> ( but i do have to go see if i can find it again at
> ( fries - palo alto store
>
> - it is NOT commercialized if you cannot buy the pre-packaged
> CD's at the regular stores, but i could have and still would have
> sworn i saw ubuntu at the local stores packaged in its fancy boxes
not likely.
> ubuntu> Ubuntu Linux is easy to download. You can download a CD image and
> ubuntu> burn it yourself using a CD writer, or order a pressed CD from us.
> ubuntu> For a limited time we will send CDs to you at no cost, too.
>
> which to mean implies they charge $$$ for their cd... and yet they also
> say the cd's is free ...
how does sending it for free imply that they charge $$$? they are sending
it for *free*. no money. no shipping. free.
> - canonical also promised to deliver hundreds of CD to the
> linux picnic that never arrived
Maybe you messed it up. I've seen the CD's at several of the local LUG's.
> - their "free cd" requires you to provide with email and passwd
> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
>
> ( that is not free in my book, to be picky about it )
>
> - i do expect to give them a shipping address to
> receive the free cd, not an email address
because it cost you money to provide the email address?
> doesn't GPL also state that you must distribute/release source code
> of the binaries ?? ( not just the binaries )
They have apt-source repositories just like debian.
> - another area where its flame bait
>
> - ubuntu says they won't send you the sources on their free cd
> (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/support/documentation/faq/shipit)
> - that is very bad in my book
How many average users (the ubuntu target-audience) would prefer to have
source code over an additional 400M of software?
I probably shouldn't have even replied to this as it's wildly off-topic.
But seriously you do spread a whole lot of FUD.
Cameron Matheson
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