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Re: Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC



Am I perhaps reading this amixer output wrong? It looks like it's unresponsive.

Xeno Campanoli wrote:

Okay, I booted it up in the distribution version of Windows and got to the sound test, and the
sound test worked.  So, hardware is okay and my connections are okay.
Also, I tried amixer suggestions you made in the other post to Mr. Green. Here are my results after going back and doing these things again from the Debian boot:

joehill:~# amixer set Headphone 50 unmute
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
 Limits: Playback 0 - 63
 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on]
 Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on]
joehill:~# amixer set PCM 100
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
 Limits: Playback 0 - 31
 Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [off]
 Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [off]

I then ran aplayer as follows (with no resulting sound):

joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3 Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-player1-shoot.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
joehill:~# aplay /usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3
Playing raw data '/usr/share/apps/kbattleship/sounds/ship-sink.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono

My Amixer list you suggested was:

joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer'
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Center',0
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Depth',0
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0
Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
Simple mixer control 'Video',0
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0
Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0
Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Simple mixer control 'Mix',0
Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0
Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0

I did the command:

joehill:~# amixer set Master 50
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
 Limits: Playback 0 - 63
 Front Left: Playback 50 [79%] [on]
 Front Right: Playback 50 [79%] [on]
joehill:~# amixer | grep 'Simple mixer'
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
...

I guess it looks like something won't let the settings change. Is there a thing to turn on
that allows writing to settings?

Thanks once again for any feedback. At this point, since with help I've proved my hardware works, I'm not in quite so much of a hurry, but it would be nice to get this going this week.

sincerely, Xeno

So you can see, it seems to have no effect.




Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:44, Xeno Campanoli wrote:
Okay, it has been over a week since I had time to
work on this.  Please accept my apologies, but I've
been busy.  The previous title was:

Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem:  apparently I don't have
the alsa modules       up yet after all

among others.

I'm going to systematically recapitulate for myself,
and sharing, the settings I have achieved so far for
sound (the video problem is one of blurring digits,
and I'll get to that later if I have time).

joehill:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P
DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp.
82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.1 USB
Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
UHCI #2 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel
Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.7 USB
Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
EHCI Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge:
Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) 0000:00:1f.0
ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
Bridge (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel
Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage
Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel
Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage
Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp.
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp.
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
02) 0000:01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant:
Unknown device 2f20 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller:
Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev
02) joehill:~# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
snd-intel8x0           19584   1
snd-ac97-codec         59576   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-pcm-oss            38176   0
snd-mixer-oss          13432   1  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-pcm                59272   0  [snd-intel8x0
snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer             14148   0  [snd-pcm]
snd                    34276   0  [snd-intel8x0
snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
snd-timer] soundcore               3940   4  [snd]
snd-page-alloc          4936   0  [snd-intel8x0
snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] input 3648 0 (autoclean) i830 68476 1
agpgart                46244  10  (autoclean)
apm                     9964   0  (autoclean)
parport_pc             23880   1  (autoclean)
lp                      6724   0  (autoclean)
parport                26504   1  (autoclean)
[parport_pc lp] af_packet 13000 1 (autoclean) usb-storage 65088 0 (unused)
e100                   50036   1
ehci-hcd               18412   0  (unused)
usb-uhci               23344   0  (unused)
usbcore                62924   1  [usb-storage
ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod                 11756   0 (unused)
scsi_mod               95108   2  [usb-storage
sd_mod] ide-cd                 31296   0
cdrom                  29828   0  [ide-cd]
rtc                     6440   0  (autoclean)
ext3                   81068   5  (autoclean)
jbd                    42468   5  (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-detect               288   0  (autoclean)
(unused) piix 9096 2 (autoclean) ide-disk 16800 6 (autoclean) ide-core 108568 6 (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix
ide-disk] unix                   14960 218 (autoclean)

Okay, as before the symptom is I can play the songs
on a Duke Ellington CD, but the tracks show playing
with no actual sound coming out.  The program I'm
using is CD Player under Multimedia under the
Applications pulldown.  We determined previously that
no cables were obviously connected badly (I have a
green sound cable going into the appropriately
labeled "line out" green plug in the back of the
machine, and you'll see by the specs on the net
(http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9PkH8iJNtvQJ:www.
cyberscholar.com/eMachines/doc/spring05_3985_SF.pdf+T3
985+Desktop+PC+&hl=en) that the thing has on-board
sound and the bios has this enabled (just checke
again).  My friend Bill Warner suggested these
problems may happen from some kind of conflict with
the video driver, and that my problems might be best
solved if I install Sid (test) instead of sarge, but
I'd like to have sarge going because I want to use
the system to help QA web stuff from my work.

Finally, I will review below as I go through my setup
steps from this instruct- ions page
(http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestoc
k) I immediately see that I do not have an
/etc/modules directory, so that must have changed in
mid-sarge, presumably.  I see the string
"snd-intel8x0" in modules.conf.  The file has all the
stuff listed in step 3 of the above referenced
instructions, and it also has a bunch of stuff that
says "oss" on it, like:

above sound-slot-0 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
snd-seq-oss .
.
.
above sound-slot-7 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
.
.
.
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

and I wonder if I need to delete these or comment
them out...?

There is a whole mess of different discover files and
directories in here too, including a
/etc/default/discover, /etc/init.d.discover,
discover.d, and discover.conf.d, and
discover-v1.conf, and discover.conf-2.6 and
discover-modprobe.conf.  I wonder if I just deleted
all those things if it might somehow improve the
state of politics in the world.

Anyhow, if anybody out there could get me a little
further with this additional information, I'd sure
appeciate it.  I'd like to know I can really use this
machine before the takeback time (next Friday is the
last day) comes due.

Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli


Please see the post I just posted a few minutes ago trying to help Trace Green with a problem with the same driver.

My suggestions are you've either not unmuted the sound settings or you've got the dreaded "AC97 Quirk" and need to be focusing on Headphone volume to control actual master volume.

If you have Linux kernel source installed, check out <linux kernel source dir>/Documenation/sound/ALSA Configuration.txt for info on the "quirk". If you haven't got amixer on your machine, apt-get alsa-utils to get it then use amixer to check and if necessary modify the mute state and volume of your Master, PCM, and other settings. If this succeeds and doesn't help try modifying your Headphone settings (unmute and set vol) as you may have the "quirk". If you do you have the option of trying to get the driver to work around it or just living with it (which is what I'm doing so far).

For the rest of the detail, see the post I just posted before this.

Mark

PS your lspci and lsmod output look healthy, at least to my no-better-than-mediocrely-tutored eye. But if you haven't set volume and mute settings on your mixer since switching to the ALSA driver, they'll be muted, dollars to doughnuts...






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