Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters. I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.
While many mail clients will accomodate unwrapped text:
- Some don't. Be considerate.
- Many more fail to wrap and attribute quotes properly.
- Many web-based list archives render unwrapped text as very long
lines, e.g.:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200309/msg00568.html
Thank you.
on Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:02:46AM -0800, Seeker5528 (seeker5528@comcast.net) wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:06:25 -0800
> "Karsten M. Self" <kmself@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > What WMs does Nautilus manage _not_ to fuck up? Anything other than
> > metacity? If so, it should just fucking *test* the environment and
> > Get The Fuck Out Of The Way[tm] if a non-metacity WM is running.
>
> If you disable the drawing of the desktop it does not mess up any of
> the window managers.
The point made was: why should the user have to do this? The
application:
1. Should not be scoped to have such overlapping functionality.
2. Should autodetect when it's being used in a desktop context.
> I am not too big on having to use the gconf editor to change the
> setting, but I don't rant about the whole Gnome project because of it.
Faults noted. Essentially:
- General tools not feasible with gconf.
- gconf management tools woefully undocumented (an improving
situation, but it's like pulling teeth).
- Inability to (readily) comment gconf settings.
- GNOME / GNU aversion to manpages.
> Gnome session management sucks and by extension the expectation that
> window managers should be aware of gnome session mangement sucks, but
> it is not that hard to run a different windowmanager with Gnome.
The problem I'm alluding to is that it's very difficult to run GNOMEish
apps outside the GNOME environment.
> The applications are a whole seperate matter. If drag and drop or cut
> and paste doesn't work between 2 applications it is a bug and reports
> should be filed.
My understanding here is, generally, that there's a common interface
across GNOME, KDE, and other toolkits to manage snarf'n'barf & dragon
droppings. This would seem to be relatively minor, all told.
> I do not view KDE as better than Gnome or Gnome as better than KDE.
One interesting story to note is the reasons the Knoppix project elected
for KDE over GNOME:
http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20040907_why_knoppix_chose_kde.phtml
> Session management is my big nitpik. With the lack of good session
> management Windowmaker seems the best.
No arguments there ;-)
> With Windowmaker the option to save the session is right there on the
> menu, but as far as I can tell it does not care if applications are
> session aware or even have an option to handle session aware
> applications. This also means the part that is missing is the part
> that lets you have an open email client with a half written message,
> and without having to save the message to the draft folder, save the
> session, exit, come back in, and be back to your half written email
> message.
>
> The part that is missing in Gnome and KDE is the part that gracefully
> handles applications that are not aware of their particular brand of
> session management.
It's a myopia that's two-way: the environments don't play particularly
well with third-party apps, and apps to some extent don't play well with
third-party environments. I see far fewer issues with KDE than GNOME,
however.
Peace.
--
Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
Thought is free.
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