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Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?



The GRUB project is also upgrading GRUB so maybe in version 2 it will have those features

James Griffith


----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Gutierrez" <fernando_gh@terra.com.pe>
To: "James Griffith" <jbg@qwest.net>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?


yeah... it is a real problem when it doesn't reboots correctly, normally after some time waiting i have to make an expensive call to the city where the server is and order someone to turn off and on the machine, but of course that returns us to the initial problem, the lilo option is only for a one-time reboot (so it will boot correctly after the power down), the next time it uses the previous (normal) config, but the grub option dont, it keeps using the config i specified with the --config-file option, so it is all a mess specially when the person at the other end of the phone-line has a very limited knowledge of english and computers...

So i just have to keep using lilo in this machines, that for my pleasure are just 2 and only 2 or 3 times a year have this type of requirement.

Thanks

Fernando

James Griffith wrote:

hmmm.... I haven't had to deal with that problem... I looked over the man page and didn't see anything much else but that unless you made that as the temporary kernel default, but either way you can run into problems say if you have a kernel panic or the sshd won't start. which of course I have had both problems. I haven't had to use this but maybe the --batch might be of some help I'm not too sure..... So when you use the -R in lilo then how can you reboot the machine if you have problems, say if sshd doesn't start (which I have had when I was trying to recompile a new kernel)??



----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Gutierrez" <fernando_gh@terra.com.pe>
To: "James Griffith" <jbg@qwest.net>
Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?


James,
And what if you dont have physical access to the machine? then you cant make a selection if you made the entry in the grub config, so is there an option to (without user interaction) boot a not-default kernel with grub?

The only way i found was to run grub with the --config-file option and obviously create another config file just for that time, then i would re-run grub without that option... is there any other way?

Thanks,

Fernando

James Griffith wrote:

Grub is probably the best boot loader out... it is fully configurable and if you want to set it to boot a certain kernel next boot you do it as you are booting or make a boot selection so you can boot to that one when ever you need.
James Griffith


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Carlson" <wcarlson@vh.org>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Pigeon wrote:

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 10:57:30PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:

And with the advantage of being able to read filesystems other than
FAT16. My preferred method of booting used to be a weeny DOS partition
with LOADLIN.EXE on it, until I discovered grub.


Does grub have functionality similiar to lilo's "lilo -R <kernel>" yet?

For those that don't know, this specifies the kernel and parameters to use for the next boot ONLY, all before the machine is actually rebooted. The machine should (hopefully) boot without any user interaction and in the
event something bonks, on reset will boot with the default
kernel/parameters. This feature is dead necessary for those of us
supporting machines that we have never actually physically touched.

Later,

Bill Carlson
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