Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:16:03PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:39:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson (baloo@ursine.dyndns.org) wrote:
>
> > Marc Wilson <msw@cox.net> writes:
> >
> > > On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > >> - With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
> > >
> > > Sure, instead it'll freeze at stage 1.5. Hardly an improvement.
> >
> > But how often does that happen? I've never seen it myself.
>
> I have.
>
> GRUB offers (advantage) the option to shuffle around partitions as
> they're visible to the OS. Very useful if, say, you're dealing with a
> multi-boot system and didn't (or couldn't) put some lame-ass piss-poor
> excuse of an OS like, say, a DOS-based legacy MS Windows variant, on the
> first partition of the first IDE disk.
Mm? I've got
hda1 - swap
hda2 - linux
hda3 - dos/win3.1
and lilo has never had any trouble with that.
>
> GRUB offers (disadvantage) the option to shuffle around partitions
> ....and for some reason this was getting returned to the partition table
> (working from memory here, possibly wrong on details) such that reality
> and tables no longer match.
>
> Great for shooting yourself in the foot. Somewhat less useful for
> booting systems.
>
> Result was a hang at the 1.5 bootloader stage.
>
> Other than that: yes, I prefer GRUB. Greater flexibility, greater
> control, greater recoverability.
>
>
> > >> - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config
> > >> file
> > >
> > > Except that you do, unless you believe in symlinks for your
> > > kernels..
> >
> > Since when? I don't symlink my kernel and I don't rerun grub every
> > time I upgrade my kernel, and yet it Just Works(tm).
>
> Your kernel install probably runs an 'update-grub', there's an apt
> config option for that.
>
> Note that update-grub does *NOT* 're-run grub' in the same way that it's
> necessary to re-run 'lilo' after editing /etc/lilo.conf. Rather,
> update-grub is editing /boot/grub/menu.lst. GRUB itself does *not* need
> to be updated, it finds and respects the modifications to its config
> file.
>
> [Deletia of correct and significant GRUB advantages].
>
>
> Peace.
>
> --
> Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
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