Re: grub/lilo - Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?
hi ya john
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote:
> From the commandline, you can get lilo to boot a spefic menu item for
donno .. i never used lilo on the command line to boot a specific kernel
i always configure a lilo.xxx.conf and use lilo -C lilo.xxx.conf for
whatever it's supposed to have as options on the next boot
> the next boot and then revert to the usual default. I don't have a
> system with lilo to had, but I think it's
> lilo -R <something>
lilo -R something will boot only once ... 2nd time around will be back
to that it would be normally
lots of lilo options ... just like lots of grub options
> I think bootsplash in grub started as a RH customisation: they might
> have taken it from elsewhere, but when I first saw it it wasn't standard.
oen day .. one can go do some history digging on where bootsplash first
showed up and who and when and why .. :-)
> I don't know what you mean. I do know that with grub or LILO in the MBR
> you can boot either from a partition.
as long as you can write the MBR correctly... that is true ...
problem is the MBR is NOT always written correctly .. both grub and lilo
fails to write the proper data under some random cases
> I installed grub into hdc just the other day.
me too ..and it died ...
and on other systems it works while it fails on some
- i don't particularly care why it fails, just that if it
fails, i want to know and i will take 2 minute to use the
other boot loader instead
> >- needs to know the filesystem on the disk ( a bad thing )
> >
> Arguable, but in practice it's not bothered me.
its a problem if you're using ext3 or reiserfs or xfs and the kernel
you're booting doesnt understand that fs, than you will have to have
fun with reiserfs and more fun with booting a raid system
> > == a very very bad thing to require /usr/lib to boot ...
> >
> >
> but it doesn't.
ah .. but it does ... default grub ... just installed sarge from
cdrom as of a botu 2-3 weeks ago ...and each time grub says it's
wanting to see /usr/lib/stage1 when doing grub-install /dev/hda
- moving it to /boot/grub fixes the problem
> the grub install script does just that.
it does or it might not ... i dont care, its obviously not doing
it when installing from disk1 and disk2 of the 13 disk cdrom set
> OTOH Lilo doesn't have the capability.
i think it does ... fedora uses those [long] silly syntax for naming disk
partitions
> There's a nice little script to do that too. And you can use it with any
> computer, as I needed to a few weeks ago.
"little side scripts" won't help people if it didn't install properly
in the first place ...
and one should be able to write one faster than it'd take one to
google for anything to get their pc booted
anything that prevents a "non-geek" to install and boot properly
is a bad thing or even better ..
"a non-geek should be able to install and boot without any
problems or worries" ( 95% of the market is non-techies )
c ya
alvin
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