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Re: Wierd Question



That's interesting.  My knowledge is based mostly on
my parents' experience, about ten years back, and
welcome messages from telneting into the library, so
it's somewhate outdated.  My personal experience is
more in LBL than UC Berkeley, but I've only seen one
X11 desktop there.

  Daniel

--- zeroion <zeroion@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Definately.  Here in Berkeley, the UC leans in the
> BSD
> > direction, as I'm sure you can imagine (this is
> not
> 
> Speaking as a current Berkeley CS student, I feel
> that UC Berkeley
> leans in the direction of Solaris. I have yet to see
> a BSD workstation
> in any of the main computer labs, which is ironic
> considering its
> origins. Most of the programming labs here at
> Berkeley are stocked
> with Sun Rays connected to a Solaris 9 server.
> 
> > > Majoring in languages makes no sense to me,
> unless
> > you want to be
> > > pigeonholed into one language for the rest of
> your
> > life. 
> 
> I would second that statement. Here at Berkeley (and
> I believe at most
> universities too), students are taught programming
> concepts and
> theories, rather than actual languages. While the
> first semester CS
> course focuses on Scheme (a Lisp dialect), the goal
> is to teach
> students to think as programmers. After completing
> the class, students
> should be able to transfer their skills to any
> programming language.
> 
> > > > > majored in... oh.. for example, Driver
> > > development.
> 
> Well, topics like driver development are covered in
> upper-division CS
> and EE courses. I don't think they would serve well
> as majors, though.
> It really narrows down the field of your experience.
> I'd rather major
> as CS with a speciality in driver development than
> just be a driver
> developer.
> 
> -Stephen Le
> 
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:03:08 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
> Asarnow
> <reve_etrange@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Definately.  Here in Berkeley, the UC leans in the
> BSD
> > direction, as I'm sure you can imagine (this is
> not
> > true of every UC.  I hear that Davis uses a lot of
> > Solaris and Linux machines).  I know from friends
> that
> > the City College in San Francisco also uses
> *nix...my
> > impression from talking to various people around
> the
> > Bay Area is that every educational institute here
> uses
> > *nix pretty heavily.
> > Not my high school, though.  Luckily, the
> computers
> > all let you boot from the CDROM, so the Knoppix
> disc I
> > carry in my backpack comes in handy.
> > 
> >  Daniel
> > 
> > --- Chris Metcalf <chrismetcalf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I agree. Better to go to a university that gives
> you
> > > a good solid
> > > foundation in computer science and then to
> > > specialize later on.
> > >
> > > If you want to learn about *nix programming, why
> not
> > > pick a university
> > > whose courses show loyalty towards working on
> *nix
> > > platforms? At my
> > > alma mater (the University of Michigan), they
> > > started us off from the
> > > first year programming on Solaris and every
> Intel
> > > machine in the labs
> > > dual-booted with Linux. Its certainly a lot
> better
> > > than a school that
> > > only teaches you programming in MS VC++.
> > >
> > > Chris M.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:23:45 -0600, Monique Y.
> > > Mudama
> > > <spam@bounceswoosh.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 2004-06-23, Cecil penned:
> > > > > I'm headed back to school. But I had a
> thought
> > > after I considered why
> > > > > I wanted to go back to school. It would be
> > > totally cool if there was
> > > > > some sort of "Linux School". A 4 year or 6
> year
> > > school, where you
> > > > > majored in... oh.. for example, Driver
> > > development. Or game
> > > > > programming. Or a specific language. Major
> in
> > > C++, and minor in
> > > > > assembly. Things like that. Major in a
> scripting
> > > language. Bash major,
> > > > > Perl minor. Am I just nuts or does this
> excite
> > > anyone else? Does it
> > > > > even exist? If it did, I'd go there, and not
> > > back to college.
> > > >
> > > > Majoring in languages makes no sense to me,
> unless
> > > you want to be
> > > > pigeonholed into one language for the rest of
> your
> > > life.  Learn
> > > > concepts, not languages.
> > > >
> > > > Driver development, game programming, etc,
> would
> > > be great -- as
> > > > continued education programs, like a master's.
> > > You have to learn how to
> > > > design and code software before these kinds of
> > > courses will do any good.
> > > >
> > > > Just my opinion, since you asked.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > monique
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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