Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Simon Kitching <simon@ecnetwork.co.nz> said on Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:45:51 +1200:
> On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 18:14, CaT wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 02:50:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > > {grey@teleute:~} free
> > > total used free shared buffers cached
> > > Mem: 775556 767612 7944 0 131368 392300
> > > -/+ buffers/cache: 243944 531612
> > > Swap: 655344 26600 628744
> > >
> > > 531Mb's not enough? Hmph.
> >
> > It's more of a case of 'Isn't 240Mb (or 200 cos of squid) a bit much for
> > a pretty desktop?' ;)
>
> It's always real hard to measure actual memory usage of an app. This
> 240MB is presumably actually the memory taken by the kernel plus disk
> cache + all sorts of other stuff too, like SSH servers.
No - 240 is just apps - read the `free` output again. 400MB
cache+130MB other-cache; ssh servers etc take up about 20MB
typically. My box uses typically 64MB ram (running fvwm and emacs -
unforuntalty once you start adding bloated crap like mozilla and
soffice, it gets filled rather rapidly).
> But assuming all 240MB are used by the desktop, thats what- US$50?
> I'm willing to pay that for the chance to run a pretty desktop for the
> lifetime of that PC. And I live in a country where the US$ is about
> twice that value in real terms.
I'd rather use that money on functionality rather than
prettyness. Then again, fvwm looks good once you customise it (I
really wish the default setup was at least more function and/or pretty
than it is). Further, fvwm is damn quick and lightweight.
Of course, I can't buy any more RAM for my machines, because no one
makes that type anymore. Doesn't satisfy the sheep who like to go out
and buy the latest and greatest, because their software of choice gets
more and more bloated.
> Of course some people live places where that *is* an unacceptable amount
> of money.
Too right it's unacceptable.
(If you hadn't noticed, I really get pissed of when people add crap to
my favourite programs at the expense of making it less usable -
netscape used to be a nice program - but now that it includes the
kitcen sink and washing machine, I can barely watch it crawl on my 5
year old computer -- and yes, I have disabled all that theming crap).
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