Hello debian-user,
escalating back to the list. Please tell me whether my behavior is
aggravating the situation and whether I'm screwing around with his
head. So far I considered myself not to be overly friendly but still
polite, and I thought my suggestions would have helped this user.
As this is apparently not the case please also state a more
appropriate solution to this user's problem. I guess I'm not the best
choice to walk him through the process.
For reference I include everything I sent to Philip off-list (snipping
out everything he didn't disclose publicly; Philip can authorize me to
add his replies or just do so himself).
I'm seriously interested in getting to know whether I need to readjust
my code of conduct.
Thanks for taking care,
cheers,
Flo
Abstract of the original problem:
he wants to install a package from experimental, gets a file overlap,
but still wants to proceed installing this package.
My off-list mails follow:
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Subject: Re: gnome hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb upgrade problem
To: Philip Pinkerton <philip@maxlinux.biz>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:42:39 +0200
Message-ID: <20040416194239.GY16237@live>
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 02:48:53PM -0300, Philip Pinkerton wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 14:30, Florian Ernst wrote:
> > Are you sure experimental is the best choice for you? Please see
> > http://bugs.debian.org/240589 as well as read man dpkg and search
^^^^^^^^
> > for forcing options (hint: overwrite) if you still want to install
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > exactly this package.
Cheers,
Flo
Subject: Re: gnome hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb upgrade problem
To: Philip Pinkerton <philip@maxlinux.biz>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:44:32 +0200
Message-ID: <20040417134432.GL16237@live>
Hello Philip!
I have a hard time following the flow of thought in this mail from
you...
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:20:03AM -0300, Philip Pinkerton wrote:
> [his reply snipped]
man dpkg, forcing option for overwriting, thus doing as root
dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb
will install the package (well, rather force it into the system) and
update the package database.
But as the package is broken (file overlap with kdelibs-data) this
problem might persist unless the maintainers of kdelibs-data and
hicolor-icon-theme agree on in what package the file
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/index.theme shall be shipped in and both get
properly updated.
Cheers,
Flo
Subject: Re: gnome hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb upgrade problem
To: Philip Pinkerton <philip@maxlinux.biz>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:44:07 +0200
Message-ID: <20040417144407.GP16237@live>
Hello Philip!
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:57:03AM -0300, Philip Pinkerton wrote:
> [his reply snipped]
When? Rather try to make it as complete as you can.
> [his reply snipped]
Don't paraphrase actions, please state the exact command(s) issued or
provide a complete transcript.
> [his reply snipped]
Take a backup before and compare after upgrading. Got backup?
Use mc or ar to examine the .debs' contents even without installing
them.
> [his reply snipped]
Read your previous mail, it sounds confusing:
<Quote>[quote from his mail snipped]</Quote> Later on then you state
what you still have...
Actions taken on my system:
|# dpkg -i hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb
|Selecting previously deselected package hicolor-icon-theme.
|(Reading database ... 57073 files and directories currently installed.)
|Unpacking hicolor-icon-theme (from hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb) ...
|dpkg: error processing hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb (--install):
| trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/index.theme', which is also in package kdelibs-data
|Errors were encountered while processing:
| hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb
|# echo $?
|1
OK, so dpkg returns the error code 1 here, the same you get and which
apt echoes back to you.
But:
|# dpkg -i --force-overwrite hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb
|(Reading database ... 57073 files and directories currently installed.)
|Unpacking hicolor-icon-theme (from hicolor-icon-theme_0.5-1_all.deb) ...
|dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
| trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/index.theme', which is also in package kdelibs-data
|Setting up hicolor-icon-theme (0.5-1) ...
|# apt-get -f install
|Reading Package Lists... Done
|Building Dependency Tree... Done
|0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
|# apt-get upgrade
|Reading Package Lists... Done
|Building Dependency Tree... Done
|0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
|#
So it looks like the solution I provided really solves the problem,
and something goes wrong when you try it.
Are you sure you did exactly what I did? If so include a complete
transcript and let's go back to the mailinglist...
Cheers,
Flo
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