Re: Debian has turned unusable.
High,
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, [iso-8859-1] Trollcollect wrote:
> Hello list,
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>
> However as i have to install a small network now (7
> WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this
> assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts to
> get an installation CD with the new jigdo method).
> What i got after installation was
> - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support
> - a KDE 2.0
> overall totally outdated and useless versions of
> libraries and software.
>
I don't know what kernel the CD images have, but 2.2 is a bit old, I
agree. But even in the stable distribution, 2.4.18 is available as a
kernel and testing even has 2.6.3.
> I then tried to figure out how to update those
> packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE from
> Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure to
> consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why
> debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even usable
> at all, is beyond my understanding.
>
> However it turned out that i could not update only
> selected packages easily. In fact neither of dselect
> or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a
> sensible way.
>
I am not sure how you got stuck with old packages, so let's start from the
beginning. First make sure /etc/apt/sources.list is correct with lines
like:
deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
If you only want the older tree, remove the second line.
Then run: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade to update the package
list and to install new packages.
The kernel however does not get upgraded by default. Do apt-cache search
kernel to get a list with kernel packages, like:
kernel-image-2.4.18-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.4.18 on 386.
kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.3 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
kernel-source-2.4.24 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.24 with Debian patches
(etc)
choose to install the one you need with 'apt-get install
kernel-image-2.4.18-386' (for example).
same idea with kde, but I guess kde get's upgraded by the usual 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' (I don't use either kde or kernel-image packages, so I may
be slightly off).
> Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is not
> capable of doing this, however i asked in a few linux
Probably just some basics every Debian n00b has to overcome :)
Greetz,
Sebastiaan
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