On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 08:10, Karol Czachorowski wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 18:33:36 -0800 > Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> wrote: > > > Unless you're doing something CPU intensive that can take advantage of > > special CPU instructions, you will waste hours upon hours recompiling > > the world to save milliseconds here and there. The packages that > > benefit from optimizations are compiled subarchitecture-specific > > already anyway in Debian. > > Almost all X applications works better (sometimes much better) with > optimalization. I have KDE recompiled for my processor and it starts > even twice faster! > So, in my opinion, recompilation is a good idea. You my dear sir, are full of Male Bovine Scat-ology. I have and continue to run Both Hand Compiled for my machine and Fully Debian provided X packages, including GNOME, KDE, WDM, BLACKBOX, FLUXBOX, XFCE... plus more. I can tell you this, that the difference between the Debian Build of All of them are within 1-5% of any hand optimized X. Some of the Debian Builds are faster (XFCE4 in particular right now). Even running X on my Alpha machines Debian Builds are so-in-line-with hand-built Binaries... that it completely makes it fruitless to continually rebuild the releases. If you think you are getting Massive improvement, I challenge you to have your Debian machine do builds for the whole system. Adding in your Hand Optimizations to the Build Environment... Let me know, real numbers. I would argue 3 second load times vs 4 second are a non-issue. Or even getting OpenOffice.org v1.1 to load the first time in less than 9 seconds on an Athlon Thunderbird FSB266 1400MHz with 384MB of Memory. (Ultra ATA100 60GB 2MB Cache Seagate with hdparm settings -c3 -d1 -m16 -M254 -a256) Let me know. Mainly because that'll impress the heck out of me. But won't amount to a hill of beans. Unless you are Charging $1,000/hr (or in that neighborhood) for you time billed... it is a non-issue... Ohhh, you are a hobbyist. I am sorry I do this fulltime, managing the company I work for machines and about 50 other machine I do on a consulting terms... Like I'd use Gentoo for that, even with the Prebuilts. So, it comes down to the fact you like to tinker. In "/etc/apt/apt.conf" put these 2 lines in it: APT::Default-Release "experimental"; APT::Get::Force-LoopBreak "true"; Which is what I have for my personal machines, I get to tinker a lot. See if you can handle it. -- greg@gregfolkert.net REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
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