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Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

on Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:31:48PM -0500, Mike M (linux-support@earthlink.net) wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:04:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> <snip>
> > Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as
> > disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run
> > debootstrap in that directory and install a basic system.
> > 
> > I then chroot into it and then update everything needed to make it work.
> > Then install a new kernel that supports the hardware.
> > 
> > All Done. Literally end of story. I have put woody on machines with SATA
> > controllers that have only been out for 2.4.22+ to have drivers built in
> > them.
> > 
> > I don't have a single problem.
> <snip>
> > I end up having no knoppix type of system. You might consider doing
> > something similar.
> > 
> > The stuff I do is based in part on the the Debian Chroot Install @
> > twiki.iwethey.org
> > 
> > Search in google... you will find it.
> Sounds a little hairy but if it gets me out of the unstable pool, then
> it might be worth the effort.  I shudder at the thought of a broken
> "tar".  I am perfectly capable of creating confusion and delay with my
> own inventions.


There's also section 3.7 of the Debian Install Manual.

Think of Knoppix as a Debian boot disk on steroids.  With games.  And

Remember:  there's nothing particularly magical about an installation.
You need:

  - A booted system (the installer system itself).  Here we're using

  - Paritition your target disk(s) as desired.

  - Install desired packages.

  - Install a kernel.

  - Set some system configurations:  keyboard, language, timezone,
    hostname, root user, non-root user, networking, kernel modules.

  - Install a bootloader.

  - Boot the newly installed system.

Installers hold your hand through bits or most of this, but it's nothing
you can't do more-or-less manually.  Both my method (using a base system
image) or debootstrap give you a lot of flexibility.

It's possible to do a remote chroot install (Emma Hogben reported on
this a few weeks ago -- converting her formerly Red Hat system to


further described at:


...there's even an automated script for doing this reported at Slashdot
in the past month or so.

Flexible to the max.


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