On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 15:49, Mike M wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > > On Monday 09 February 2004 11:37 am, Mike M wrote: > > > Does this mean that the only way to get a system that just works is to > > > mix and match software from all branches? > > > > That depends on how you define "just works". All branches except stable > > have a chance of broken packages, so based on that stable is the only > > branch that "just works". > > > > The mix of the branches provides a system that "just works" while > > supporting newer hardware that stable does not currently support. > > However, this same mixing makes it difficult to keep a system updated > > from the Debian archive, as a package that worked when the Knoppix CD was > > made may be broken currently in the branch it is drawn from. > > I guess "stable" means bedrock stable then. It seems there will never > be a Debian stable that is aware of the latest hardware. Hardware is > released at a faster rate than the rate at which stable can be released. > > To use Debian on the latest hardware then you must use unstable or > testing, which exposes you to possible broken packages. Nope. I use Knoppix to boot from, make the "system image" as far as disks etc. I then mount those filesystems apropos and then run debootstrap in that directory and install a basic system. I then chroot into it and then update everything needed to make it work. Then install a new kernel that supports the hardware. All Done. Literally end of story. I have put woody on machines with SATA controllers that have only been out for 2.4.22+ to have drivers built in them. I don't have a single problem. > Live-cds mix and match packages from different release streams > (unstable, stable, testing) thus making update/upgrades out of the > mainstream of Debian support. > > > > I would not use Knoppix for anything other than a Live CD for this reason. > > > > What I want is an up-to-date hardware configurator and all the blessings > of stable. This will most likely never be available. It seems > impossible. > > I would settle for an up-to-date hardware configurator with the stream > purity of unstable. This appears to be in the works with Sarge, so I'll > go try it. > > What I have is Knoppix on HDD with a /etc/apt/sources.list pointing to > all the Knoppix defined mirrors with the exception of some that don't > work (which highlights the problems you point out). I end up having no knoppix type of system. You might consider doing something similar. The stuff I do is based in part on the the Debian Chroot Install @ twiki.iwethey.org Search in google... you will find it. -- greg, greg@gregfolkert.net REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry
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