[Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Re: Securing it properly



"Henrik Johansson" <henrik@vocab.se> writes:

> A final comment:
> The install procedure is not half as hard as everyone
> said! Refreshing actually!

Glad you found it that way.  

Personally, my experience has been less than good.  (I'm still
experimenting, and am by no means ready to give up yet.)

I've run Linux since kernel 0.99pl13, and Red Hat since 4.2 I think,
and am now seriously considering moving to Debian; it seems to be the
local favorite among serious users.  I'm running two internet servers,
not a desktop workstation. 

So far, I've had three complete failures to get Debian to install, on
two different systems (both of which installed fine with RedHat 7.3).

On my third try on the second system, I've gotten an apparent install,
except that it won't boot from the hard drive.  Since I've got a
rescue disk and a boot disk, and even a theory on what the problem is,
I actually expect to get over this hurdle the next time I have time to
work on it, maybe this weekend yet.  

The installation programs seem to be *very much* not ready for prime
time, and the documentation is horrid; containing little useful
information and none of the most important thing to document, namely
the overall framework of how things *work* (which I need to know to
debug anything that goes wrong). 

One thing that's helped a lot is falling back to stable.  At least the
documentation isn't outright *wrong* so often there.  However, stable
contains rather outdated things like perl 5.6.1; which is now old
enough that the perl community is starting to tell me that the first
thing I need to do is get to a more recent perl when I have trouble
with things.

The apt-get tool, from what little I've seen so far, is quite nice.  I
didn't find dependencies especially hard to manage in RedHat, though,
and apt-get seems to sacrifice the *really really useful* rpm -ql and
rpm -qf capabilities (asking for all the files in a package, and
asking for what package a file came from).  At least I haven't found
how to do it yet.

The layers of sources is *really good* design, and will make my life
easier, and use less net bandwidth, and generally be a very good
thing.  

As I say, despite having some troubles on the initial learning curve,
I'm still favorably inclined and expect to eventually convert my
systems to Debian.  
-- 
David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Photos: <dd-b.lighthunters.net>  Snapshots: <www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>



Reply to: