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Re: unchecked 31 times



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Monique Y. Herman" <spam@bounceswoosh.org>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 13:23
Subject: Re: unchecked 31 times


> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 at 19:00 GMT, Paul Morgan penned:
> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:17:42 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 at 16:55 GMT, Alan Shutko penned:
> >>> Nick Welch <mack@incise.org> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> I suppose mke2fs(8) is where that comes from specifically.  Easy to
> >>>> disable the periodic checks, though:
> >>>>
> >>>> tune2fs -i 0 -c 0 /dev/hda6
> >>>
> >>> That's a very bad idea.  As the manpage says:
> >>>
> >>>     You should strongly consider the consequences of disabling
> >>>     mount-count-dependent checking entirely.  Bad disk drives,
> >>>     cables, memory, and kernel bugs could all corrupt a filesystem
> >>>     without marking the filesystem dirty or in error.  If you are
> >>>     using journaling on your filesystem, your filesystem will never
> >>>     be marked dirty, so it will not normally be checked.  A
> >>>     filesystem error detected by the kernel will still force an fsck
> >>>     on the next reboot, but it may already be too late to prevent
> >>>     data loss at that point.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wait, wait; I'm confused.  I thought one of the perks of running a
> >> journalling file system was that you can speed up the boot process by
> >> disabling boot-time fsck?
> >
> > He didn't say he was running ext3.  If he is, you're right.  I tested
> > ext3 when I moved to it by powering down my machine when several
> > writes were going on.  I never did break it.
>
> Is it just ext3, or do all journalling file systems obviate the need for
> fsck?  IIRC, ext3 is slower than the other options because it has a more
> complete journal ... but I may be totally wrong.
>
> Just to be a pain, I might point out that just because you never broke
> it during those tests, doesn't mean that such a test couldn't break it.
>
> >
> > To be fair, I did the same kind of testing on WinXP's NTFS, and I
> > didn't break that either.
> >
>
>
> -- 
> monique
>
My system runs fsck after 37 mounts without a filesystem check.  Thanks
monique for removing your previous sig.  It made me want to CC you.
Hoyt




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