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Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user



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On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:28:52AM -0800, Hereon wrote:
> 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally served
>    with the existence of the current debian-user list.

Howso?  If you're going to make those claims, back it up.

> 2) The debian-user list is _unnecessarily_ overtrafficked,
>    [due to it being the most likely place to ask user questions, and find
>    answers, regarding both Stable(Woody), and
>    Testing/Unstable(Sarge/Sid)]
>    which causes several problems for the Debian community:
>    a) Wasted mental effort discerning which version a message
>       pertains to,
>    b) Wasted mental effort searching for information on either
>       Woody or Sarge/Sid in the (currently) combined list.

What justifies making it harder to find the right mailing list, and
having to change up to a different mailing list with each version?
Why limit the number of people who would read your message who might
be able to help?

> 3) The Debian community would be much better served
>    a) by the creation now of two new mailing lists, called:
>      1) debian-user-woody, or possibly debian-user-stable,
>         or possibly debian-user-3
>      2) debian-user-sarge, or possibly debian-user-sid,
>           or possibly debian-user-sargesid,
>         or debian-user-testing, or possibly debian-user-unstable,
>           or possibly debian-user-testingunstable,
>           or possibly debian-user-4,
>    b) and, perhaps, by deactivating debian-user.

Again, if you're going to make such an incredible claim, back it up.

> 1) The repeated need for QUESTION ASKERS to specify which of the two
> versions their question refers to.

So?

> 2) The repeated need for READERS to be constantly alert as to which of
> the two versions each message is referring to.

So?

> 3) The difficluty of being unable to easily FIND INFORMATION in the list
> archives relevant to a topic on which you want some information/data. 

Google is your friend.

> These problems could be eliminated, and no new long term problems more
> serious than the current situation would occur, through the creation of
> two new mailing lists, perhaps called
>   debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge,
> and perhaps by deactivating the current debian-user list.

No, the consequences of these could be reduced by following some
common-sense guidelines.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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