I just switched my laptop to Debian. I'm using a mix of stable and unstable. Sound works with ogle, but with xmms or xine it is very choppy. Also I think some of the libraries that xmms wants to install esound etc are the source of problems. At this point I've reinstalled the OS a few times and have it working well, I don't want to hose it up. Is there a way to install xmms without the esound stuff? John Holland