> All my users are in groups dip and dialout. They've relogged in. Now when > users run "pon demand-wvdial"... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Explain, please. > Similarly, when poff is run as user, and pon had been called previously > by root, it complains thusly: /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed. None > stopped. This is normal. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI