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PC - Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, bob parker wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:12, Tom wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:32:47PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote:
> > > Good point.  And just because Bill Gates et. al have become hard-nosed
> > > businessmen, it does not mean they are immoral.
> >
> > Microsoft played the exact same role in its origins v. IBM as Linux is
> > now playing to Microsoft; the upstart, force for freedom.  The PC was a
> > freedom revolution against the glass house.
> IBM invented the PC not Microsoft. IBM made the decision to have open 
> standards so that third parties could and did manufacture components and of 
> course the entire assembly itself. Microsoft did not even create MSDOS, they 
> bought it. Sure the PC was a force for freedom, but the credit goes to IBM, 
> all Microsoft have ever done is to constrain that freedom.

nah .... to "ibm invented the pc"

Apple created the PC era ... ( becoming bigger than the eagles, kaypro,
heathkits, imsai, ... etc until than ... PC were just hobby toys for the
"super smart, super rich techie geeks"  at $2,500 a pop ..
	and 30yrs later, it's still $2,500 a pop for the latest cpu/pc

IBM made is "official" that its okay to use in an office environment to
replace the selectric typewriter
	- soon followed by 100's of spreadsheets, databases,word, DOS
	processing apps

Microsoft took over the "DOS/OS" market compared other hundreds of
DOS apps ( drdos, cpm/dos, .. ) by giving away MS-DOS already included
with the purchase of the motherboard
	-- look what happened ...
	-- people didnt want to spend the extra $50 for pc-dos or dr-dos
	or none of the others
	-- worst still, and yes, gates didnt have a working "DOS" when he
	got the contract from IBM to deliver a disk-based OS
	-- IBM shoould have never given up on PC-dos and Borland
	should have kept their version too

than came "full suite"  that included db,spreadsheet,word apps..
	-- few years later, Microsoft announces "MS Office" and now stuck
	in that "office" environment... peole cant use their pc w/o
	overblown, overpriced "office"

and back than opensource was sorta called shareware and freeware 

today ... we have exactly the same market ..
	hundreds of different linux distro ...

	except that redhat/suse is already public ..
	( guess which distro is gonna win in the long run )

c ya

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