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Re: Tool to bounce mails



On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:36:17 -0400, 
ScruLoose <scruloose+debuser@eastlink.ca> wrote in message 
<[🔎] 20031009173617.GA13822@shorty.ca>:

> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Naitik Shah wrote:
> 
> > I dump all my spam into one folder (for sa-learn), and I was
> > wondering if there's some script/application that can bounce those,
> > so I can do my part in annoying the spammer. 
> > 
> > I know virii usually fake their headers, but most real spam I've
> > seen
> >  doesnt, and some even use the bounced mails to figure out which
> >  email
> > addresses are working, so I figure this might help me in the long
> > run anyways!
> 
> I don't mean to flame, but I really must point out that this is
> COMPLETELY WRONG.
> 
> Lots of the addresses spam is "from" are valid addresses because
> they're just another address from the spammer's harvested list. If you
> reply to these addresses, you are almost always just spamming an
> innocent bystander. It's called a joe-job.
> It's a well-known standard all over the 'Net that you do not _ever_
> reply to spam.

..I beg to differ: _having_ followed the above standard for the 
last 7 years, I find my mailfeed is about 5% "bounces".  ;-)

..for spammers in the US, a law shark will do fine, outside, I 
recommend "turn them in to the Chinese for espionage".  ;-)

> Feeding spam into spamcop.org is a good way to contribute to a
> long-term solution (generates complaint letters to the spammer's ISP,
> and submits them to a block-list).
> 
> Look into exim4-daemon-heavy  with spamassassin to allow you to
> spam-scan your mail during the SMTP conversation and deny it at that
> point, then any bounce message is actually generated by the server
> that's trying to send you the spam.
> (Assuming you're running your own mailserver, that is.  If you're
> getting your mail from a remote POP or IMAP mailbox, this doesn't
> apply.)
> 
> And if you really want to start annoying spammers, go do a google
> search on teergrubing. This likewise only applies if you're running
> your own mailserver.
> 
> 	-Cheers!


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