Re: where is netscape 4 in testing?
--- Bijan Soleymani <bijan@psq.com> escribió:
> > For some people who are used to it and won't change
> > For some badly coded enterprise websites...
>
> The number of websites that work in mozilla but fail in netscape 4 is
> about 10 to 1 in my experience. I haven't really seen any pages that
> work in netscape 4 but not in mozilla, but even if there is such a
> thing, I doubt that people are coding for netscape 4 any more.
>
Try https://mypay.dfas.mil/ , where I access my payroll info. From *nix it
_only_ works in Netscape 4.x. I have gone around and around for some time on
this, but with Mozilla, Firebird, Epiphany, and Galeon it IDs the browser
as:
Your browser has been identified as indicated below:
Netscape 5.0 (X11; en-US)
This site supports the following browers:
# Netscape Navigator version 4.06 or later
# Netscape Communicator
# Microsoft Internet Explorer version 4.0 or later
Changing the user agent string does not work wither, as it uses some ASP/IIS
fingerprinting trick (at least that is what I think after looking at the
live HTTP headers).
My only other recourse was to run the Win32 version of Firebird in WINE (since
IE in WINE won't do SSL), but since the current WINE is pretty b0rked, this
isn't working at the moment.
Talk about annoying.
> >
> > > Numbers have arrived at 7.1 and there is Mozilla as a free alternative
> > > and there is mozilla-firebird,...
> >
> > For computers too old to run anything else than NS 3 or 4.
>
> They can always run lynx or dillo :)
>
Not if they want frames and SSL (at least as far lynx goes, I don't know about
dillo).
> > > Since not even the company that made it supports yesterdays browser,
> > > why should the 'next generation' of Debian?
> >
> > I thought one of the points of open source [Ok, it is not open source,
> > but free] was that a project was never dead, and that you upgrade when
> > YOU want.
> >
> > So, why not NS 4.77 in Sarge ? Assuming someone wants to maintain it, of
> > course.
>
> It is impossible to maintain. Only netscape the company has the source
> and can fix actual problems with the program. If they give up on the
> program it's dead. This is one of the problems with proprietary
> software.
>
I can see that, but I was under the impression that Netscape Communications
actually released all the source code under the NPL. Is this wrong? Did they
only release part of it?
> If you really need it you should be able to find it on ftp.netscape.com.
>
That's what I did. Works great.
> Bijan
-Roberto
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