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Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style



On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT), 
Chris de Vidal <cdevidal@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
<< [🔎] 20030826184750.6921.qmail@web40507.mail.yahoo.com>:

>> Volunteers needed!
>> http://debtoo.org

>  Arnt Karlsen<arnt@c2i.net wrote
> .."* This website sucks."  Toss it in http://validator.w3.org/  ;-)

Thats a great site Arnt I especially like how it tells you what line 
is wrong.  I added it too my quick links, I will keep it handy for 
emailing web masters.

I just have one question for all you folks who like to compile every 
single package, what are the benefits?  It seems like this site and 
review had Debian on top, Debian was only compiled with I386.
Please excuse the long url:
http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1

Also Isn't Gentoo starting to introduce binaries of packages to ease 
installation?  I wonder how the package manager keeps up with the 
added stress of keeping track of source as well as binary 
applications?  What happens if you have the same package from source 
and binary? It makes me think that they are adding more complexity to 
the system, I wonder how that effects stability? Seems like people 
like the idea of compiling their own packages more than the benefit 
it will create. 

I would like to see more reviews of source distro's vs binary 
distro's.  I would also like to see a comparison between major 
packages, such as KDE, Gnome 2, XFree86, compiled from source vs 
binary.  I also know that it might be pointless because someone could 
compile with all the speed flags while the binary they choose might 
be compiled for stability, and a wider user base.  Such as was in the 
test mentioned above.

I also would like to know how source distro's handle security updates?  
Do you have to recompile your application with the new security 
patches?  Seems Admins wouldn't like this idea, especially if linux 
becomes more mainstream, more kiddie scripters take up attacking 
linux systems.

Wasn't it mentioned that it would be almost impossible to have a 
complete source release of Debian?  Seems like it would be a lot of 
work, might as well just stick to Gentoo since they have the source 
release pretty much covered.

If someone can show a nice chart showing the speed increase compared 
to stability of Gentoo vs Debian, I would be more than happy to put 
Gentoo on a box.  

But I won't hold my breath!

Rthoreau
 



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