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Re: Unusual idea..



On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 03:30, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Craig Tinson wrote:
> 
> >Can anyone come up with a theory on how to "convert an mp3 into a
> >number"?
> >
> Well, whatever you're going to use it for, it has probably already been 
> done, or it's not going to work out like you hope. Let me touch on all 
> of the possible things I can think of:
> 
> First, either you want to convert a wav into a number that is possible 
> to convert back into the original wav, or you want to convert a wav into 
> a number that is *not* possible to convert back into the original wav 
> but still the number is unique to that wav (ie, a hash value).
> 
> If you're after the first one, a reversible conversion, then I figure 
> you're hoping to either:
>   1 - Compress or somehow make the storage more efficient by messing 
> with the number. In that case, forget it. It's not gonna happen.
> or,
>   2 - Somehow get around P2P copyright violations (ie, "But your honor, 
> I was just sharing really, really, REALLY big numbers. You can't put me 
> in jail for sharing *numbers*".). In that case, forget it. This tactic 
> will go absolutely nowhere.
> 
> If you're after some hash value... some way of uniquely refering to a 
> sound without actually having to store the whole sound, then you're 
> probably after something called an "audio fingerprint". Go to 
> www.musicbrainz.org and read about TRM's.

I don't know if I'm the only one, but has anyone thought that perhaps
the OP wanted to do this 'just because'? Personally, I think it would be
quite 'cool' to be able to convert a stream of audio into a stream of
integers corresponding to the waveform of the original source. Not to
compress it, not to convert it back, and not to get a unique value. Just
to do it. But then, that's just me. I can't pretend to know what the OP
truly had in mind. :)

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