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Re: How to unsubscribe?



* Jamin W. Collins (jcollins@asgardsrealm.net) [030605 22:53]:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:02:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:57:48PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > > FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.
> > 
> > OK, here's the headers I got from your message...the very first line
> > of the headers is rarely inaccurate unless we're dealing with spam.

Just to be pedantic, it's not really the first line of the headers.
It's actually envelope information, which may or may not (depending on
the MTA and its configuration) appear in the message once it's been
delivered.  Generally, yes, it is stuck on the top of the message on a
line starting with "From ", especially for mbox deliveries.

> > From bounce-debian-user=baloo=ursine.ca@lists.debian.org Thu Jun 05 21:16:39 2003
> > Received: from mail by ursine.ca with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
> >         id 19O8ec-0001Sy-00
> >         for <baloo@ursine.ca>; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700
> 
> Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> 
> Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -0000
> Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
>   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -0000
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>         by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
>         id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> Old-Return-Path: <baloo@ursine.ca>

qmail generally puts this info in Return-Path:.  You don't necessarily
have an mbox "From " line unless you're delivering to an mbox (and even
then, it's not necessarily correct; for example, some fetchmail
(mis?)configurations have been known to clobber it).  My exim setup
doesn't include "From " lines at all in Maildir deliveries, but I do
have it add a few headers with the envelope information:

Return-path: bounce-debian-user=debian-user=virtual.doorstop.net@lists.debian.org
Envelope-to: debian-user@virtual.doorstop.net
Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 22:53:33 -0700

good times,
Vineet
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