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Re: How to Identify Mailing Lists



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On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:43:59PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote:
> What I'm looking for is a way to tell a mail filtering tool how to
> automatically sort mails from mailing lists.

I use, in order of preference, the List-id, X-Mailing-List, or on a
broken mailing list, Subject headers to find list messages.

> To be usable with all filtering tools, such a procmail, mailagent,
> maildrop etc, we'd need a list of headers, or specific header
> contents, that various MLMs add to mails they explode.
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What MLMs explode mail?  Seems like kind of a mess and a visit from a
bomb squad that I can do without.  8:o)

> BTW, List-Id is defined in RFC2919.  I'd love it if all MLMs would use
> that, then this whole problem would be solved.

Yes, it would.  I also wish this.  But considering on a couple mailing
lists I'm on, "How do I sort this list?  There's no subject
tagging!" and "Could someone turn on subject tagging so I can sort
this list?" are recurring questions, I don't see improvement soon.
Work on educating the idiots first, then we might make some meaningful
progress.

> Or maybe it's easier to just lobby the various MLM authors to add
> List-Id?  If so, where could I find a list of MLMs and their
> respective authors?

When you find a list that doesn't, point out the RFC and ask the list
operator to enable it.  If he says there's no option, find out what
he's running and file their equivilent of a normal bug with it's
maintainer.  That RFC's been on the standards track for two years now
without getting nixed, if MLM maintainers haven't gotten around to
implimenting it, they need to now.

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