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Re: Query: what's best low-profile WWW gui-UA for Debian?



On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:55:57PM -0400, Soren Andersen (somian@adelphia.net) wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > I have set up a system based on a Cyrix P120+ cpu and 96 MB RAM, not
> > huge gobs of free hdd space either. I have (just yesterday...) got X11R6
> > (XFree86) installed. Using the stable XFree86 v4 release. I have got
> > some X client apps set up, like Knews and so on.
> 
> I was running on a similar setup (P-133/96MB/4GB) for the past several 
> months.  WindowMaker, lots of rxvt windows, w3m, and dillo.  *None* of
> the other graphical browsers was usable (Opera, Phoenix, Galeon,
> Mozilla, BrowseX).  You're making some sacrifices with both w3m and
> dillo, but it's a largely workable combination.  No Java/Javascript,
> limited graphics.  w3m gives you ssl and htauth, dillo provides good
> graphics and performance.

Odd, have a P-166 80M laptop, and Galeon is a tad slow, but very usable.  

Opening up www.cnn.com in Galeon (seems to be a typical page), top shows 
this information:

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  910 dasunt    17  10 23756  23M 15432 S N  19.9 30.5   0:33 galeon-bin
  924 dasunt    15  10 23756  23M 15432 S N   0.0 30.5   0:00 galeon-bin
  925 dasunt    15  10 23756  23M 15432 S N   0.0 30.5   0:00 galeon-bin
  926 dasunt    15  10 23756  23M 15432 S N   0.0 30.5   0:00 galeon-bin
  927 dasunt    15  10 23756  23M 15432 S N   0.0 30.5   0:00 galeon-bin
  935 dasunt    15  10 23756  23M 15432 S N   0.0 30.5   0:00 galeon-bin
  410 root      16 -10 15792 8744  1372 S <   8.0 11.2   1:28 XFree86
  928 dasunt     9   0  4788 4788  1392 S     0.0  6.1   0:02 GrabWeather
  794 dasunt     9   0  4524 4496  1260 S     0.0  5.7   0:11 mutt
  529 dasunt     9   0  3364 3220  1476 S     0.0  4.1   0:05 w3m-en
  464 dasunt    10   0  3964 3148  2652 S     0.3  4.0   0:03 gkrellm
  787 dasunt     9   0  2664 2612  1284 S     0.0  3.3   0:02 w3m-en
  879 dasunt     9   0  2440 2440  1272 S     0.0  3.1   0:02 editor
  413 dasunt     9   0  2136 2004  1656 S     0.1  2.5   0:01 fluxbox

If I can read top's output correctly, each galeon thread is using 
8 megs of unique memory, and 16M of shared memory, bringing the total 
up to 56M.  w3m runs at about 2-4M, which is a lot more lightweight, 
but doesn't work on all websites.  But if you have 96M of memory, the 
main Galeon process isn't swapping that much, if at all.

Galeon does like to access the HDD though, even if its not swapping, and 
I could see where that could present a problem on older, slow HDDs.

However, unlike the parent poster, I tend to use one rxvt window, and 
screen.  :)  I believe I'm saving more memory then him that way.

~ Jesse Meyer

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