Well here's a good one, is there a way to get into a system when you've lost the root password? Without a CD or boot floppy? Used to be you could pass in "init=/bin/sh" from LILO, and work some /etc/shadow magic. (like copy the hashed root password from a different system) But GRUB is different... thanks! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~