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On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 23:20, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org
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> Date: 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 +0000
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> debian-user-digest Digest				Volume 2003 : Issue 489
> 
> Today's Topics:
>   Ongoing named trouble                 [ Dave Sherohman <esper@sherohman.org ]
>   Re: More detailed post ...            [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
>   Re: Ongoing named trouble             [ Sean <sean@gutenpress.org> ]
>   Re: sndfile.pc ?                      [ James Hughes <jhughes@kos.net> ]
>   Re: Ardour debs?                      [ James Hughes <jhughes@kos.net> ]
>   Re: security                          [ Jeffrey Taylor <jeff.taylor@ieee.or ]
>   Re: good sources.list                 [ Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net> ]
>   subscribe                             [ Nigel Ash <nash@members.shines.net> ]
>   Re: good sources.list                 [ Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net> ]
>   Re: Howto set up a local apt - repos  [ mi <Michael.Wordehoff@gmx.de> ]
>   maildir vs. mbox vs. mh ???           [ "Michael D. Schleif" <mds@helices.o ]
>   Re: good sources.list                 [ Jeffrey Taylor <jeff.taylor@ieee.or ]
>   Re: More detailed post ...            [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
>   problem with courier-pop-ssl          [ martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org ]
>   Re: sndfile.pc ?                      [ stan <stanb@awod.com> ]
>   Re: mysql root user password, and De  [ stan <stanb@awod.com> ]
>   Shells                                [ "Radek Zajkowski [Deb]" <debian@fin ]
>   Re: More detailed post ...            [ Nori Heikkinen <nori@sccs.swarthmor ]
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Dave Sherohman <esper@sherohman.org>
> To: Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Ongoing named trouble
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 13:07:24 -0600
> 
> I have, for quite some time, had trouble with my BIND installation
> falsely claiming that certain domains don't exist.  It tends to be
> pretty consistent about them - anything under yahoo.com can be counted
> on to display this, for instance.
> 
> The symptom, which is primarily noticable for outgoing email (handled
> by exim) and web browsing (netscape or mozilla), is that the first
> attempt to resolve the domain gets a 'not found' response, but
> retrying immediately afterward works fine.  The domain then works
> properly for a while (presumably until the information on it gets
> dropped from BIND's cache), then it gives the spurious 'not found'
> again.  This is presumably a timeout issue, but I haven't been able
> to verify that theory.
> 
> For web browsing, it's an annoyance, but not a big deal - just
> resubmit the request and it works the second time.  In mail, however,
> it's more significant...  It started out with just getting
> 'non-routable mail domain' bounces and resending the message, but now
> I'm running a mailing list with a couple subscribers from UK domains
> that display this problem and Mailman eats the bounces, so there's no
> way to even detect when it happens until someone looks at the list
> archive and notices that there are archived messages which he never
> received.
> 
> In my attempts to resolve this problem, I've updated my root hints
> and double-checked that I'm set to use my ISP's name servers as
> forwarders and that they work properly.  (Interestingly enough,
> testing them again just before sending this message, both of the ISP
> nameservers resolved mail.yahoo.com instantly, but mine took several
> seconds to do so.  Trying it again after a BIND restart, the first
> attempt came back with "can't find mail.yahoo.com: Non-existent
> host/domain" after 15 seconds on the first try, found the address
> after 5 seconds on the second try, and responded instantly on the
> third.  This is repeatable.)
> 
> What do I need to do to my configuration, whether of BIND or of exim,
> to make mail delivery bit more reliable?  I would, ideally, like to
> fix this in BIND, of course, but at this point I would settle for a
> configuration setting to tell exim to always try delivery twice, even
> if the first attempt gets a 'Non-existent host/domain' error.
> 
> -- 
> The freedoms that we enjoy presently are the most important victories of the
> White Hats over the past several millennia, and it is vitally important that
> we don't give them up now, only because we are frightened.
>   - Eolake Stobblehouse (http://stobblehouse.com/text/battle.html)
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: More detailed post ...
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 20:11:06 +0100
> 
> --AkbCVLjbJ9qUtAXD
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> also sprach Daniel Barclay <dsb@smart.net> [2003.02.09.1912 +0100]:
> >     ...to lists; I read them.
> 
> This is a lot better. Thanks.
> 
> --=20
> Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them.
> =20
>  .''`.     martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> : :'  :    proud Debian developer, admin, and user
> `. `'`
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system
> =20
> NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken!
> Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Sean <sean@gutenpress.org>
> To: Debian-User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: Ongoing named trouble
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 14:50:02 -0500
> 
> You could always get rid of bind altogether and switch to the djbdns
> stuff (tinydns and dnscache). On my home machine I was constantly
> battling little bind issues, but since I started using djbdns, things
> have been very smooth.
> 
> I know this isn't a suggestion of what to do with bind, but oftentimes
> when I start to get annoyed with a certain piece of Linux based
> software, I just pull up freshmeat and find something else that might
> give me more of the solution that I'm looking for.
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 14:07, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > I have, for quite some time, had trouble with my BIND installation
> > falsely claiming that certain domains don't exist.  It tends to be
> > pretty consistent about them - anything under yahoo.com can be counted
> > on to display this, for instance.
> > 
> > The symptom, which is primarily noticable for outgoing email (handled
> > by exim) and web browsing (netscape or mozilla), is that the first
> > attempt to resolve the domain gets a 'not found' response, but
> > retrying immediately afterward works fine.  The domain then works
> > properly for a while (presumably until the information on it gets
> > dropped from BIND's cache), then it gives the spurious 'not found'
> > again.  This is presumably a timeout issue, but I haven't been able
> > to verify that theory.
> > 
> > For web browsing, it's an annoyance, but not a big deal - just
> > resubmit the request and it works the second time.  In mail, however,
> > it's more significant...  It started out with just getting
> > 'non-routable mail domain' bounces and resending the message, but now
> > I'm running a mailing list with a couple subscribers from UK domains
> > that display this problem and Mailman eats the bounces, so there's no
> > way to even detect when it happens until someone looks at the list
> > archive and notices that there are archived messages which he never
> > received.
> > 
> > In my attempts to resolve this problem, I've updated my root hints
> > and double-checked that I'm set to use my ISP's name servers as
> > forwarders and that they work properly.  (Interestingly enough,
> > testing them again just before sending this message, both of the ISP
> > nameservers resolved mail.yahoo.com instantly, but mine took several
> > seconds to do so.  Trying it again after a BIND restart, the first
> > attempt came back with "can't find mail.yahoo.com: Non-existent
> > host/domain" after 15 seconds on the first try, found the address
> > after 5 seconds on the second try, and responded instantly on the
> > third.  This is repeatable.)
> > 
> > What do I need to do to my configuration, whether of BIND or of exim,
> > to make mail delivery bit more reliable?  I would, ideally, like to
> > fix this in BIND, of course, but at this point I would settle for a
> > configuration setting to tell exim to always try delivery twice, even
> > if the first attempt gets a 'Non-existent host/domain' error.
> > 
> > -- 
> > The freedoms that we enjoy presently are the most important victories of the
> > White Hats over the past several millennia, and it is vitally important that
> > we don't give them up now, only because we are frightened.
> >   - Eolake Stobblehouse (http://stobblehouse.com/text/battle.html)
> > 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: James Hughes <jhughes@kos.net>
> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: sndfile.pc ?
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 14:59:16 -0500
> 
> --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3
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> 
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:38:08PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:07:21PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > Sigh, I'm still fighting the battle of trying to compile Ardour (why ha=
> sn't
> > > someone done a deb of this).
> > >=20
> > > In any case, I manged to get autogen.sh to run, only to have configure =
> fail
> > > looking for a file called sndfile.pc. It seems to be searching for this
> > > with /usr/bin/pkg-config.
> > >=20
> > > Anyone habe any clues on this?
> 
> Hi, I'm trying to build ardour as well on sid. I'm having some luck
> just doing 'apt-cache search' on all the stuff that configure barfs
> on, eg:
> 
> apt-cache search sndfile
> libsndfile0 - Library for reading/writing audio files
> libsndfile0-dev - Library for reading/writing audio files
> libsndfile1 - Library for reading/writing audio files
> libsndfile1-dev - Library for reading/writing audio files
> sndfile-programs - Sample programs that use libsndfile
> 
> libsndfile1-dev did the trick I think. However, that won't be the end
> of your problems. Currently configure is looking for a file named
> ladspa.h, which is in the ladspa-sdk package; however the package
> description says,
> 'Please build-depend on this package if you need ladspa.h'
> 
> Can someone give me a quick run-down on how to do this?
> 
> 
> 
> --=20
> James Hughes
> 
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: James Hughes <jhughes@kos.net>
> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: Ardour debs?
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 15:05:14 -0500
> 
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> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 08:13:28PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:22:23PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > I discoverd Ardour today, courtesy of a Slashdot post.
> > >=20
> > > Looks like just what I need.
> > >=20
> > > Anyone have a line on debs for it?
> >=20
> > The general answer is apt-get.org, followed by google, but I think
> > ardour is a special case, where the developers asked for it not to be
> > packaged yet...I think...
> =46rom the ardour FAQ, referring to the question "why no tarballs?", but
> I think you could apply it to debs as well:
> 
> Why no tarballs?
> 
> a) Because at this point in its development, I don't want to deal with
>    bug reports from a version that's more than 3 hours old.  I am not
>    going to build and upload tarballs every 3 hours.  Ardour sometimes
>    changes dramatically internally several times in a day.  CVS lets
>    people easily, quickly, cheaply get the latest changes and build a
>    completely up-to-date version.
> 
> =09
> 
> 
> --=20
> James Hughes
> 
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Jeffrey Taylor <jeff.taylor@ieee.org>
> To: Debian User <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Cc: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
> Subject: Re: security
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 14:12:14 -0600
> 
> Quoting Rob Weir <rweir@ertius.org>:
> > [DISCLAIMER: I've played with this here at home, and think I've got a
> > fairly secure system, but I'm no expert, I'm just an interested geek]
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:21:33PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > Is anyone here running a Debian system with no daemons running as root
> > > other than init, inetd, and sshd, no SUID-root programs other than
> > > passwd, su, etc, and generally having everything locked down as much
> > > as possible (chroot's for daemons, etc)?
> > 
> > I'm running bind9 in a chroot (using Martin's bind9-chroot package);
> > everything else is as normal. 
> > 
> 
> It has been possible since BIND 8.x to run it non-root.  I did it on
> my main machine (non-Debian).  It took a little fiddling with
> permissions and ownership so it could read & write the configuration
> and zone files.  Figure an hour to get it to work.  I should invest
> another hour to improve the solution.  I now think it can be done more
> securely.
> 
> Jeffrey
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: good sources.list
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 11:17:09 -0900
> 
> On Sunday 09 February 2003 09:05 am, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've got a question about apt and dselect.
> > ATM sources.list contains:
> >
> > Deb http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
> > Deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> > Deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
> > Deb http://people.debian.org/~kov/debian woody gnome2
> >
> > I was wondering this is _enough_. Of course it's enough, Debian is
> > running well, but maybe there are other important sources not listed
> > abouve.
> >
> > If there are suggestions, tell me. I'm running woody 3.0r0 with kde3.1
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Willem-Jan Meijer, Netherlands
> 
> For official Debian mirror sites there is an app, 'netselect', (man 
> netselect)that will find the quickest mirror for your location.  
> 'netselect-apt' will use the list of mirrors from Debian.org, find the 
> fastest one to your location, then write a sources.list file. Interesting 
> info on different mirror sites.
> 
> -- 
> Greg Madden
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Nigel Ash <nash@members.shines.net>
> To: Debian-user@lists.Debian.org
> Subject: subscribe
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 20:35:53 +0000
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: good sources.list
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 11:43:37 -0900
> 
> On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:17 am, Greg Madden wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 February 2003 09:05 am, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've got a question about apt and dselect.
> > > ATM sources.list contains:
> > >
> > > Deb http://devel-home.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
> > > Deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> > > Deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
> > > Deb http://people.debian.org/~kov/debian woody gnome2
> > >
> > > I was wondering this is _enough_. Of course it's enough, Debian is
> > > running well, but maybe there are other important sources not listed
> > > abouve.
> > >
> > > If there are suggestions, tell me. I'm running woody 3.0r0 with
> > > kde3.1
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Willem-Jan Meijer, Netherlands
> >
> > For official Debian mirror sites there is an app, 'netselect', (man
> > netselect)that will find the quickest mirror for your location.
> > 'netselect-apt' will use the list of mirrors from Debian.org, find the
> > fastest one to your location, then write a sources.list file.
> > Interesting info on different mirror sites.
> 
> I need to add netselect is only measuring network latency to the mirror 
> site, bandwidth of the mirror site is not part of this.
> 
> -- 
> Greg Madden
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: mi <Michael.Wordehoff@gmx.de>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Howto set up a local apt - repository ? (solved)
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 20:22:11 +0100
> 
> Hello,
> i did a little rtfm now about 'dpkg-scanpckages'.
> It wasn't as much difficult.
> One has to provide the newly to create 'Packages' file in the 
> deb-packages-dir before updating apt.
> There was some trouble because woody packages were mixed up with i guess  
> sarge, which confuses new built dependencies.
> Anyway, in the openoffice major package i looked up what exactly is needed 
> (going to install three languages stuff) and managed to sort things out.
> First time i ditched a filemanager for shell-expansions....never been in such 
> situation ! Quite motivating.
> 
> cheers 
> -- 
> 
> micha.
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Michael D. Schleif <mds@helices.org>
> To: Debian Users List Service <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: maildir vs. mbox vs. mh ???
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 15:05:42 -0600
> 
> Considering moving from mbox to maildir a very large (~2GB, ~1000000
> messages) email archive.  Mostly concerned with the integrity of
> receiving messages intact.
> 
> Obviously, this will impact performance and inodes used.
> 
> Given this brief overview, what ought I to consider?
> 
> Are there other options to consider?
> 
> How else might I handle this data?
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> mds
> mds resource
> 888.250.3987
> 
> Dare to fix things before they break . . .
> 
> Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we
> think we know.  The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . .
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Jeffrey Taylor <jeff.taylor@ieee.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: good sources.list
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 15:14:38 -0600
> 
> Quoting Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>:
> [snip]
> > For official Debian mirror sites there is an app, 'netselect', (man 
> > netselect)that will find the quickest mirror for your location.  
> > 'netselect-apt' will use the list of mirrors from Debian.org, find the 
> > fastest one to your location, then write a sources.list file. Interesting 
> > info on different mirror sites.
> > 
> 
> This does not get the security.debian.org sites, so be sure to add
> them after running netselect-apt.
> 
> Jeffrey
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> To: Debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: More detailed post ...
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 22:17:57 +0100
> 
> --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC
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> also sprach Nori Heikkinen <nori@sccs.swarthmore.edu> [2003.02.09.1955 +010=
> 0]:
> > then that person shouldn't set the Mailto-Followup header!
> 
> actually, yes s/he should, just differently... ;^>
> 
>   http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html
>  =20
> --=20
> Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read!
> =20
>  .''`.     martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> : :'  :    proud Debian developer, admin, and user
> `. `'`
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system
> =20
> NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken!
> Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
> 
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: problem with courier-pop-ssl
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 22:15:29 +0100
> 
> --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp
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> hi all,
> 
> i have a user trying to contact my pop3-ssl server (courier, with
> a certificate signed by my own CA =3D=3D unpublished CA) from Eudora
> 5.2/Mac, and it's not working on her end.
> 
> on my end, i see a couple of packets exchanged before the mailhost
> sends her a TCP reset. in the logs, i then see this:
> 
> pop3d-ssl: starttls: accept: error:140890E9:SSL
> routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_CERTIFICATE:tls peer did not respond with
> certificate list
> 
> what's going on? why is it sending a starttls to port 995 in the
> first place?
> 
> does anyone know how to get eudora to play nicely with pop3-ssl?
> 
> --=20
> Please do not CC me when replying to lists that I read!
> =20
>  .''`.     martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org>
> : :'  :    proud Debian developer, admin, and user
> `. `'`
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system
> =20
> NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken!
> Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
> 
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> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: stan <stanb@awod.com>
> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: sndfile.pc ?
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 16:35:56 -0500
> 
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:59:16PM -0500, James Hughes wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:38:08PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:07:21PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > > Sigh, I'm still fighting the battle of trying to compile Ardour (why hasn't
> > > > someone done a deb of this).
> > > > 
> > > > In any case, I manged to get autogen.sh to run, only to have configure fail
> > > > looking for a file called sndfile.pc. It seems to be searching for this
> > > > with /usr/bin/pkg-config.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone habe any clues on this?
> > 
> > Hi, I'm trying to build ardour as well on sid. I'm having some luck
> > just doing 'apt-cache search' on all the stuff that configure barfs
> > on, eg:
> > 
> > apt-cache search sndfile
> > libsndfile0 - Library for reading/writing audio files
> > libsndfile0-dev - Library for reading/writing audio files
> > libsndfile1 - Library for reading/writing audio files
> > libsndfile1-dev - Library for reading/writing audio files
> > sndfile-programs - Sample programs that use libsndfile
> 
> Mmm, I've installed all of those, I think, but perhaps from testing, rather
> thna unstable.
> 
> > 
> > libsndfile1-dev did the trick I think. However, that won't be the end
> > of your problems. Currently configure is looking for a file named
> > ladspa.h, which is in the ladspa-sdk package; however the package
> > description says,
> > 'Please build-depend on this package if you need ladspa.h'
> > 
> > Can someone give me a quick run-down on how to do this?
> 
> I'd be interested in hearing if you get this working. It appears that the
> devloper of Ardour has suceded in upseting the Debian developers, and they
> are'nt interested in doing anythign with this package. Too bad, as I have
> lot's of LP's thta I wan't to read in, and this package would be a big
> asset (along with gramofile), on doing this. I wisht these 2 projects could
> get together.
> 
> In any case, I've got several other projects on my plate (mythtv for one),
> so I don;t know how much more time I'm going to have for this one.
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
> neither liberty nor safety."
> 						-- Benjamin Franklin
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: stan <stanb@awod.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: mysql root user password, and Debian updates
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 16:44:24 -0500
> 
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 12:49:44PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> > Do you have the mysql root password stored in /root/.my.cnf
> > as detailed in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian?
> > 
> 
> I didn't, but I do now:
> 
> -rw-------    1 root     root           91 Feb  9 16:40 .my.conf
> 
> # an example of /root/.my.cnf
> [mysql]
> user            = root
> password        = XXXXX
> 
> 
> But sstill no go...
>  
> 
> Setting up mysql-server (3.23.52-2) ...
> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> mysql-server
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> 
> -- 
> "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
> neither liberty nor safety."
> 						-- Benjamin Franklin
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Radek Zajkowski [Deb] <debian@finalbanana.com>
> To: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Shells
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 16:42:18 -0500
> 
> I'm using the bash shell, but in the package list in dselect it lists korn
> and zsh as loaded as well. Can I just unistall them or does my system needs
> them anyway?
> 
> R>
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> From: Nori Heikkinen <nori@sccs.swarthmore.edu>
> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: More detailed post ...
> Date: 09 Feb 2003 16:42:01 -0500
> 
> on Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:17:57PM +0100, martin f krafft insinuated:
> > also sprach Nori Heikkinen <nori@sccs.swarthmore.edu> [2003.02.09.1955 +0100]:
> > > then that person shouldn't set the Mailto-Followup header!
> > 
> > actually, yes s/he should, just differently... ;^>
> > 
> >   http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html
> 
> fine, you win.  but that person would have the *option* of not setting
> the header to elicit the same effect from MUAs that do comply with the
> Mailto-Followup header, right?
> 
> </nori>
-- 
Tom Vergote <tom.vergote@pandora.be>



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