Re: package trees
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:35:54AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> This will probably get me ejected from the planet or accused of
> not understanding how Debian works, but here goes.
I do not think you will be ejected but you may be chewed :)
> There has been a long standing "bitch" by some that Debian is so
> vary slow to update their base system. i
That comes from people who do not know how Debian works.
> Personally I stand entirely behind the philosophies of making stable
> really stable and releasing updates when they are ready.
I do. But some more helpful mechanism will not harm as long as it is
implimented. apt_preferences and chroot are there for unstable. (Well
in reality, i can not resist. I am running unstable/testing system.
libc is very new)
...
> set my apt_preferences accordingly:
> For Example
> ----------
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: 700
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 600
>
> (as long as they are both >500)
Why this? Where is unstable with Pin-Priority: 50
These discussion realy depends on situation of debian archive. When was
the last release.
> A little more thought on the matter came up with another qualifier
> on the testing packages. The assumption is that the longer that
> they have been in testing, unmodified, the higher the probability
> is that they are more stable than not. Mind you, this is an
> assumption and I know that there will be exceptions to this.
>
> But I guess this comes down to a point. Is there any information
> available which implicates how long a package has been in testing?
It is not easyly and efficiently available.
> This would allow a finer tuning of package downloads to assume
> anything over XX days to be "good enough to play with". The value
> of XX would depend on my willingness to meddle with that
> particular machines stability.
True.
> I have a number of workstations that I consider as different
> levels of stability. My notebook is pretty ruthless, I would
> probably set XX == 7. My desktop workstation is different and
> that might run > 30 days. You get the idea.
Well all packages stay in UNSTABLE for few days. So I usually track
tesing once it matures (I do not do this for first few month after
release.)
Then again come to think of it, "apt-get upgrade -d" to download and
"apt-get upgrade --no-download --ignore-missing". This will be nice to
wait few more days than others.
Oh, yeah. I will do this with unstable. That will be nice. :)
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