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Re: debian user vs. browser plug-ins



On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 11:53:02AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Just curious what the debian user does if he wants to browse like his
> microsoft counterpart when encountering flash, java, etc. 'enhanced'
> web pages.  These cause mozilla 0.99 to ask me to download some
> 'plug-ins' in some wacky fail prone way on my frail costly modem
> connection.  Why can't we 'plug-in' all the plug-ins before hand from
> our debian CD set?  I'm tired of complaining that various sites
> shouldn't be using all this 'advanced technology'.  Instead I was
> supposing that the highly advanced debian system with 3 times as many
> packages as other distributions certainly somehow can meet and exceed
> the convenience of a microsoft user when encountering .swf etc.
> Yes I noted some packages to deal with .swf, but what is the
> 'integrated' way?

The problem with Java, Flash and Acrobat is that they're non-Free.
Debian isn't allowed to distribute them.  There are other solutions (you
can get a Java plugin from blackdown.org, f'r instance), not until there
are Free versions, it can't be integrated into Debian.  If you want it
to work, go and complain to Sun, Macromedia and Adobe and tell them to
just Free their software and make the world a better place.

-rob

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