My 2nd post today on ext3. While reading the debian-user archives (something I should always do BEFORE posting), I found a post that stated ext3 is NOT A GOOD THING for people who "shred" documents. I use a utility called "wipe" and definitely wouldn't want my hard drive vulnerable to unformat or undelete type operations, because the data was "journaled" somewhere. Thoughts or feedback? Thanks again. Chip ncrose@pinn.net